Katie Couric

And I don't know.

And yet because he was from Buffalo, his dad was Big Russ who drove a truck, there was something such an everyman quality about him that wasn't smug or off-putting for an audience.

And I think I just – I wish – I really miss his presence.

He passed –

A long time ago.

I can't remember.

I mean I think that print journalism is doing some incredible work.

I think Maggie Haberman is doing great work at The New York Times.

I think a lot of people – David Ferenthal at The Washington Post.

A lot of writers in print I think are doing terrific work.

I think –

You know, I watch some cable news.

I don't want to watch a ton of it because I find it very anxiety producing.

But I think I think, you know, everybody's doing a really good job.

I think Jake Tapper's doing a good job.

And Rachel Maddow, I think, does a good job.

I'll find out because a friend of mine is a producer on that show.

And I think probably Rachel writes things out and just knows how to deliver them in a way that doesn't look like she's reading.

But I don't really know.

But I'm going to –