Katja Adler

Do you see that as credible or is this scare tactics?

If Donald Trump reduces military support, if he does concentrate on Asia, for example, and turns his back more on Europe, can Europe go it alone? Yes, there's talks about not just agreeing this 2% of GDP spending, which was agreed 10 years ago, but 2.5, that's what the UK is aiming for, three possibly in the near future, if that's possible. Is that enough? How worried should Europeans feel?

If Donald Trump reduces military support, if he does concentrate on Asia, for example, and turns his back more on Europe, can Europe go it alone? Yes, there's talks about not just agreeing this 2% of GDP spending, which was agreed 10 years ago, but 2.5, that's what the UK is aiming for, three possibly in the near future, if that's possible. Is that enough? How worried should Europeans feel?

But could Europe go it alone in terms of defence?

But could Europe go it alone in terms of defence?

Jonathan Beale in Ukraine, do take care and thank you very much.

Jonathan Beale in Ukraine, do take care and thank you very much.

Thanks for having us in your headphones. Goodbye.

Thanks for having us in your headphones. Goodbye.

Hello, I'm Katya Adler, host of the Global Story podcast from the BBC. Each weekday, we break down one big news story with fresh perspectives from journalists around the world.

Hello, I'm Katya Adler, host of the Global Story podcast from the BBC. Each weekday, we break down one big news story with fresh perspectives from journalists around the world.

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