Katriona O'Sullivan

And to be fair, it's the least interesting thing about most people I know.

But the truth is, and I finished the book on this, like there's a very cynical world that we live in that makes a lot of money financially.

from ensuring that women don't like what they look like.

It's a billion-dollar industry.

And if we can continue to make women not like what they look like and search for solutions to that, then there will be a lot of money continue to be made.

And I think, for me, I learned from the world that, you know, I grew up with Kate Moss.

I was being compared to Kate Moss.

I was never going to be Kate Moss no matter what I did.

And then I've lived through five trends of what women should look like at this because I'm old.

You're not.

You're not even 50 yet, Katrina.

But I have five trends.

Like, you know, I can list them.

Kate Moss, Samantha Fox, Linda Lassardi, Ashley Graham.

We're back to super skinny again now.

There's been body positivity that lasted for a little while.

You know, and I'm not talking about...

people not being healthy.

You know, when we talk about this, and obesity is an issue.

Like, I have obesity.