Katriona O'Sullivan

And I think it's a really important message from my book for mothers, particularly of girls, but also boys.

It's not enough just to hide the diet and hide the conversation.

We need to like our bodies, whatever they are, whatever shape or size they are, in order for us to teach our... The kids are picking up on it.

The kids pick up on it.

But also with my mum, and I talk about this, Brendan, I watched my mum then sell her body and like her body was a commodity for men.

And I watched these men take advantage of my mother.

Like my mum didn't have, like we talk about sex work and I know this can be triggering for people listening, but I shouldn't feel ashamed of where I come from.

Like my being abused and hurt as a child wasn't my responsibility.

But I watched my mum become a commodity and she didn't have a choice in that.

She was an addict.

She didn't have a choice.

She had to do that.

But I watched her sell her body.

And I learned also then that bodies were objects for sex, for men particularly, and that men didn't really care.

Like, I watched these men going up and down the stairs in my house and taking my mam's soul.

Like, she never, ever returned from that experience.

And I kind of wanted to talk about what that did to me as a child and how it made me feel about my body and it made me value my body in terms of being a woman.

Yeah.

And she didn't.

Yeah.