Katty Kay

I don't know that he realizes that's not actually the way.

They have processes, and they actually do have institutions, and they do have a national security council or whatever the national security council equivalent is, and this goes through formal steps.

It's not actually all just done leader to leader.

Anyway, he may not have that great relationship that he thinks he does.

All of the documents or any of the documents?

We're actually going to be speaking a lot more about Susie Wells in the bonus episode for founding members, if you'd like to listen to that.

Do you think he wants this China visit?

I mean, I know it was pushed back, right, from the beginning of the Iran war.

And my reporting is that they pushed it back and they hoped that the Iran war would be done and dusted.

And as we're recording this on Monday morning, the latest is that the latest peace proposal that was flying around Donald Trump on a truth social post late Sunday night, roundly rejected and said it's totally unsatisfactory, it doesn't work.

So he's going into this meeting with a hot war, literally, and a very unstable situation in the Middle East.

And it's a hot war that he had hoped that he would have won by the time he met Xi Jinping.

How does that affect how he goes into the meeting?

I mean, even Trump cannot be deluding himself that he's going into this meeting with the strongest possible hand, right?

I mean, I know he has a way of... No, he does.

I know he likes to bend reality to his own reality.

But do you think he's getting on the plane later this week to fly to China, which he probably doesn't want to do?

It's a long way, jet lag.

He wants to be home in Mar-a-Lago in the White House mostly.

thinking, actually, I'm in a great position.