Keith Payne

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387 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Nov 2024 last heard Nov 2024

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I don't, but I'd have a problem with anyone that only bought cars from pro-life companies.
I don't like it. I understand what Rob's saying and I understand what you're saying. You don't want to put money in the pocket of somebody you disagree with who's also quite politically active in funding your opponent.
I get that. And that's a totally defendable position and it has merit. But if you play out where that all goes, so now every CEO has to declare all of their political... No, they shouldn't.
The only reason, so yes, that in the short term is a very, very, again, defendable. I get it. It's a very legitimate point of view. But if you play that out where now every time I see a Tesla on the road, I know that's the opponent. And I know that these four grocery stores have aligned themselves with LGBTQ matters and pro-choice. And so that grocery store is for Democrats.
And then this chain of grocery stores is for Republicans. You're just...
further accentuating this huge divide now if we all lived in two different countries it'd be great but we don't we live in one country i do believe in by american yes that is our group that we can be harmonious we can be at ideological opposite ends of the spectrum as russia it's not going to cause any riots or fistfights or gun shootings in this country because of it
So if we all line up every product now, if every product declares where they're at on the political spectrum, they'll just be endless. It'll really rule out the chance that you can bump into someone, have a nice conversation with them, then later discover they have a different opinion of you. You might as well at that point move to a state that they declare is only for Democrats.
I don't think it's healthy to go down that road. Yes, it's a great point on the surface. But I think if you play it out, then it's just a million different indicators that you're on the opposite end. I don't see that as very constructive for us as a country. Keith, sorry, we monopolize that.
Yeah, I get the urge. I totally do. I had bumper stickers. That's like our easiest way. Yeah. Can you tell us ideology without ideas? And I would love for you to talk about better than average. I think it's healthy for all of us to have some humility and just say like, either if you're right about your opinion on the left or you're right about it on the right, you still have the same broken brain.
There's not two different brains.
It extends to like driving. If you ask people if they're above average drivers and everyone thinks they're an above average driver.
Isn't that incredible? Yeah, that's good. They're still better than above average. And so how do people then when they prove to not be above average or they get some really undeniable evidence that they're not above average, how do they compute that?
Yeah, we wouldn't want half the population to take on the fact that they're below average. In any given domain, half the people are below average. It wouldn't be good for us, for half of the world, to think they're below average at something. Right, and it wouldn't be good for them. Right. So they don't
Yeah, back to the incongruity of their expressed political identity and what they actually think. I think we have some popular polls right now that really point that out. It's like you have over 70% of America being polled and being against the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and yet you have half the country on the right that will vote differently.
Yeah, they don't tend to be about lizard people on the left, but there's food conspiracies, there's health conspiracies. I hear conspiracies all the time on the left that are more in that realm, but they're just as irrational or imply so many people are keeping secrets and yeah, nefarious bad actor controlling all these levers. You did an experiment and I'll forget the details of it,
But basically people in the experiment, two different groups, earn the same amount of money. But they were told on one side, will you tell us about that experiment?
Even if you land in the lucky group, you're still above average. You're like, yeah, yeah, I got the winning ticket of the lottery.
You flip that group, they're going to behave exactly the same as the other group. If you're below average, it was rigged. And if you're above average, it's a meritocracy.
Yeah, and you point out that there is some reigning theories, right? There's one theory that if you give liberals and conservatives these personality tests, you're going to see that liberals score higher on the open-mindedness personality trait and go on down the line. But as you point out, you're looking at, in the best case, if they were choosing out of five, it's like a difference between one.
It's like 10%. It doesn't nearly approach the explanation we would need.
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