Keith Payne

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Yeah, I found myself getting defensive about your rejection of that because mine that I hung on to is in either the Molecule Amore or Dopamine Nation. And you do find different dopamine levels in liberals and conservatives, which would explain the willingness for change. But again, that level of dopamine difference is probably in the single percentages of how different their dopamine levels are.
Yeah, there's most certainly some black Americans with lower dopamine levels than a lot of conservatives. So that can't be the smoking gun. Right. So let's get into some of those things. Tell me about Lincoln's map, this term we all know, kind of Mason-Dixon line, where that originates.
And at the same variability within each of the counties, right?
Does that explain, which has always been a head scratcher to me, North Carolina, in that it has voted liberal in the past and it's in the South. And there's a couple of these that I wouldn't explain away by racial demographic. Like for Georgia to go, that makes sense. You have Atlanta. North Carolina, to me, was always a little bit like, oh, that's interesting.
They're more liberal than the rest of the South.
Look at that. So education, how do we fold education into? this divide?
Or once you get smart and educated, you'll naturally be liberal.
Oh, I would have thought the effect would have been more just being around those people.
Like they say, like the Vietnam War was one of the best things that ever happened for race relations. It was like one of the first times people were forced to live with one another in an integrated army.
I want to talk about income now because income also is, this is a big one.
Well, yeah. And then I think we have some stereotypes about how it works. And then maybe you can enlighten us how it actually works. But what are the stereotypes about how income is affecting our politics?
It makes sense, but it's not what we're told.
I think the left is seeing the person they put on the news that's on the right. And it's the guy with the Go Brandon flag at the truck pole. And then they go, OK, that's the right. The guy's got no money yet. He's going to vote for this guy who could help him. I think that's what's like infecting our stereotype about it. Does that make any sense?
Yeah, you could easily credit the income for what is actually the diploma divide. Right. Talk about the lottery winners. This is a fun.
That less tax equals more job opportunities and overall is better for the economy. You just go out and find an answer that would help you maintain your self-image of being a good person. Right. It's hard to know if they believe it or not, though, too. That's what scares me because I'm reading this and I go, well, I'm not a unique alien. I'm a human being with all the same biases and
hiccups and pitfalls. And as I've made more money, has that affected my opinion on taxes? I still vote liberal, but yeah, I would go, well, what's interesting is this state, which has the highest taxes available, does not have the best services, does not have the best roads, does not have the best landscaping, does not have fewer people on the street. So I go into a place of, does it work?
You know, that's, I guess, probably my own way to be against being taxed at 50% and still feel like a good person.
No, in fact, weirdly, I was libertarian when I was broke. And then post 2008 financial meltdown, when I learned about credit default swaps, I was like, oh, no, no, we need a lot of regulation. I see. Like the system, Adam Smith and laissez faire. It's too complicated. So, no, I went the other direction.
But as I get older, there are liberal policies around me in California that I'm totally disenfranchised by. There are a lot of liberal policies that I've seen in action here that I no longer believe in. But it hasn't overridden my higher calling of reproductive rights and inclusion. There's a lot of things. It's complicated. And it's hard to track. Am I getting older or have I gotten wealthier?
I don't know. I'm just a human trying to approach being objective about myself.
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