Kelly McGonigal

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The School of Greatness · The Real Reason Stress Is Hurting You | Kelly McGonigal · 24 Jul 2026 podcast

And he usually talks about this being like a curve.

And I've stopped talking about this because I feel like people then think like you need just the right number of traumatic events to be happy and resilient.

But the idea is like, you know, you look at the general population, if you've had no trauma or adversity in your life, you are not a resilient person.

You start to have some negative life experiences and you start to seem to be more resilient.

Like if somebody stresses you out,

you have conflict, you experience a failure, you're more likely to continue to thrive, to learn from it, to persevere.

And then what you see this curve is, okay, you had a lot of adverse experiences in your life, that may not be so great.

But I said, okay, what about the people

who've had some, Oh no, a lot, a lot, a lot of trauma, a lot of adversity.

Like they're not on that bell curve.

We're not talking about the difference between like two traumatic events in your life and three, but two and 20, 30 years of being in an abusive relationship.

Some of that, like where are they on this resilience chart?

And what he said to me was, God, some of those people are doing really, really well.

There's those people are super interesting and,

what he wants people to know is you are not doomed by your past adversity or trauma.

That that's what those people demonstrate to him.

When he has studied people who've had extraordinary trauma in their lives, they're just off the charts in all sorts of interesting ways and not always the adverse outcomes.

So I love that.

That's the idea that I really appreciate.

There's a, so there's a lot of research on this.

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