Ken Coleman

All right, let me just use Sam as an example.

I know Sam loves shoes, for instance.

If I buy Sam a pair of custom Jordans or something or other, and I give them to him, and Sam's going to be like, oh my gosh, thank you.

And I go, hey, now listen, I don't actually want you to wear these outside the house.

That's wild.

That's too much.

But my point is, yes, it's insane, but it's a true example.

If I give Sam a gift of shoes, I don't get to tell Sam how and where he wears his shoes.

I'm giving him a gift.

And I actually think...

you should honor this request and you need to get over it.

And I would start bragging on them.

I love the fact that their response to you was, our values are this.

I love that they actually have a plan.

And you know what?

As much as you joke about it, if they want to offer pizza bagels, step into it and tell all your friends, we want you to come honor our daughter and whatever, whatever, whatever, and son-in-law.

And you know what?

This is the most frugal couple.

Whew.

it's not your normal wedding, but we're so stinking proud of them and they're going to take what they save on the wedding and they're going to put it to starting their life off and paying off debt and change the narrative because I'm going to tell you, I'm preaching right now, but if they feel...