Ken Foy

So basically... I think people made up their own minds that this was another form of propaganda coming from the Kinahan stable.

As a complete aside, why does Daniel Kinahan always feel he should have police protection?

I mean, way back when Jamie Moore was shot outside his home,

in Estepona, Marbella, he actually got a lawyer to call for him to have police guard of civil protection around his house.

It's a kind of a strange juxtaposition for somebody who feels they're in danger because

Yeah.

Clearly, because they're involved in high level organized crime, but that the Gardaí or the police in whatever country should surround them in a protective role.

Yeah.

It is, it is.

Now, around this time, Bob Arum is interviewed on IFL TV, and this is upping the ante even further.

And you can see the confidence that's happening in the background with Kinahan about his role.

And he speaks about Kinahan and he actually says that he's actively working on getting Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua in the ring together.

And he adds, our relationship with MTK has been tremendous and particularly with Dan, who was the original founder of MTK and now is still an advisor to them.

and in effect, our advisor regarding the Middle East.

Everyone trusts Kinahan with handling situations.

So Dan is like the captain when it comes to the practicalities of doing a fight in the Middle East.

Kinahan is one of my favorite guys because I like to deal with guys, no-nonsense people, whose word is their bond.

And that's what it's been with Dan.

I think Dan's influence is tremendous because people trust him.

Now, you could wonder at that point, Bob Arum is a certain...