Ken Foy

You know, you still had those opportunities in Spain, although it was a little bit more difficult and dangerous to work out there.

Dubai is impossible.

You know, this is the next period of their lives when they move on there.

I think it's illegal, actually, to do the kind of work we do.

So it was the last opportunity to sort of detail what they were at.

And it probably was more dangerous.

In hindsight, you look back, I certainly do, on some of the jobs I did, and you wouldn't be sending anyone on them now.

And it felt inconceivable to us that criminals could behave like that in Dublin, a European capital city where you'd always felt safe doing your job and you didn't feel that criminals would put it up to you like that.

Hmm.

They had spotters and they had people that were taking those regs and all the rest of it.

We don't want to give any impression, by the way.

Undoubtedly, the Kinnehans have had people within the guards working with them.

We do not want to give the impression at all that in general the guards were working with them.

There was definitely, you know, a kind of a hangover really from cuts, from lack of recruitment, all of that stuff within the guards.

Finances were tight and certainly there was a willing...

within many of the units to police them.

But they were not in the country always.

They were only in sporadically and usually for social events.

And there was decisions made sometimes about what to police and what not because of the resources it took.

And sometimes you did find yourselves, you know, trying to get up close and personal with an international drug cartel without any backup there at all.