Ken Foy

Which make a...

pretty much impossible for drones to get through.

I think since it was introduced in Mount Joy, the whole drone problem there has kind of almost went away.

So in Wheatfield, during the process of building these

steel nets mesh steel mesh in the exercise yards I think they spent 500 sorry 5 million euro on the project right so I think that might be due to be completed next year yeah because what was happening was the drones I don't know if the drones were set on fire they were carrying something that went on fire and they literally burned through the nets and

Yeah, the drone can go just, and often does, just goes back.

Right, okay.

Goes back to where it was.

But as part of this operation, though, between the guards and the prison service, in the last couple of months there's been some notable successes.

And I suppose to show you the level of...

There was a number of arrests made and a very expensive drone was seized along with a large amount of drugs.

It was basically to be on its way into the Wheatfield prison complex but in follow-up searches that were carried out by Gardaí targeting the gang behind it, I think it happened in North County Wicklow actually, a functional machine gun was discovered the following day.

It shows you this is organized crime.

It's not really the young lads who, you know, we're throwing stuff over the wall with great agility.

No, you go in through a visitor area.

We're basically brought... Ernie Day, our great colleague, and myself, we were brought on a tour by the prison governor and the governor who's the head of prison operations across the country.

So...

We were showed, you know, the various videos and we were brought around the exercise yards.

Yeah, and what's it like?

Is it small?