Ken Klippenstein
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first heard Jun 2026
last heard 22 Jul
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We'll see what happens with whether or not a jury upholds the charges.
But the fact that these 16 people have been dragged from the court, have their lives upended, had the word terrorism put next to their names all over the news,
That has always been, you know, my biggest concern about this is the chilling effect that it's going to have on speech and people that look at it and say, maybe I don't want to go to protests.
I don't want something like that to happen to me.
But so in a nutshell, that's what NSPM 7 is.
Yeah, let's see FBI and other federal agencies start to collect intelligence and pull together things, basically predicate investigations absent a crime.
Counterterrorism is kind of a propaganda word.
I try to avoid using it in my articles because what it is is a euphemism for pre-crime, which is an actual crime has not been committed.
Typically when you're, you know, law enforcement, what you're trying to do is find, okay, here's the evidence of the crime that's been committed.
And like you're saying, they can point to a statute or law that they think was broken, pull together evidence, present to a judge.
In counterterrorism, you don't need that.
You can look at what are called indicators, which is itself another kind of euphemism for speech that they think is indicative of a future crime being committed.
And the whole point of counterterrorism
If that sounds controversial, it should be.
But the whole idea of it is you reserve it for the most serious crimes like 9-11 that are so unthinkable that it's like, okay, we have to take the gloves off and pursue them aggressively.
Whatever you think of that, and I have plenty of skepticism about counterterrorism, it's a completely different thing to talk about that in relation to ISIS and Al-Qaeda, groups with funding and organizational structure and actual mission to conduct mass attacks.
And now they're applying it to these groups that it's like they haven't killed anybody.
There's
You know, I looked at the complaint.
There's not strong evidence that they even... So if you look at... So how is this being used then, given that it's not a law?
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