Ken Klippenstein
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first heard Jun 2026
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They're using that to open the investigation.
And once they've opened the investigation and looked at things and tried to pull evidence together, they charge them under a law that does exist.
So in these cases, one of the felony charges isn't NSPM 7.
Again, that's just the way that you predicate the investigation.
The charges are impeding federal law enforcement.
So they're trying to make the case that these protesters, either by doxing people or posting information about them, that the federal government is saying, oh, this is impeding our ability to conduct ICE operations.
So they don't need NSPM 7 to be in the law for it to be a way that they can take advantage of other laws that are already on the books to go after people with.
And that's what they're doing here.
Well, they vary.
In some cases, they're trying to say that they're Antifa adjacent, which relates to another executive order separate from NSPM 7, where Trump actually designated them a domestic terror group, which in itself is extremely unusual.
Terror groups are supposed to be foreign terrorist organizations designated by the State Department because it is understood that you can't have constitutional rights be reliably respected in
if the FBI can just investigate you on these pre-crime bases that I was describing before.
But in any case, that's how some of the group is being characterized.
But again, a lot of the case comes down to this argument that they are impeding ICE's ability to go around and carry out its job.
It's the same kind of case they try to make against people in Chicago, including someone running for Congress at the time.
So, this is the kind of tool that they've settled on.
And it was what I was worried about initially, which is, okay, yes, NSPM said this is not a law, but that doesn't mean the federal government, they have armies of lawyers whose job it is to try to come up with, okay, what law can we get them on?
now that we've been able to look at not just their social media content, but through the Treasury Department, their banking information.
They're going through everything to try to find whatever they can.
And so when you look at this complaint, again, people... I saw some of the reporting out there like, oh, this is shaky.
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