Kendra Dahlstrom

I mean, literally at that level of like second to second.

And we take so much of that for granted, Ryan.

And I think that's why it's so important to have these conversations because

When you start to talk with leaders, they're just doing the job.

They're just doing that thing.

And there's nothing wrong with what you're doing.

It's how we live our life.

But they take it all for granted that they can walk and that they can breathe and all these things.

And when you realize that without that breath, you're not even here, your vitality is number one.

And if you don't have that, you're nothing.

And guess what?

You can't help your kids.

You can't help your wife, your husband, your spouse, your partner.

So I try to kind of bring them back to that.

And like how they can best honor themselves in their most authentic way.

And then they sort of start to see, oh, maybe this thing I'm doing in my life isn't really honoring myself.

And maybe I just need to renegotiate it.

Maybe it doesn't mean I have to leave.

You know what I mean?

Maybe it's like I just have to renegotiate things.