Kenneth Copeland

And he's leading other people to the Lord and praying for their families and for their lives.

Now they're prospering in the jail.

So you can see where prosperity has a whole... Look at it like this.

It's a pie.

And there's one slice in it here that's money.

And it's money enough to take care...

of everything you need.

It's money enough to be out of debt.

I taught that at the minister's conference one year, and the pastor came back the next year and told me what happened.

He said, I went home, and he said, my wife and I prayed, and the congregation prayed, and we're going to build this new sanctuary debt-free.

So he said, I went to the bank, I went in,

And he said, I asked him if I could see so-and-so, and they said, Pastor, he's working on your loan now.

And he said, I went in there and oh, he grabbed me by the hand.

He said, pastor, it's looking good.

He said, well, I just want to tell you, we decided to do it debt free.

He said, he changed and he looked at me and I will not repeat what he called me.

You know, you can't do this without us.

He would have had that spirit in his life.

It's because their money that he borrowed

There's this word kind up here, K-I-N-E.