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Kenny Malone

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Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

It was actually around this time that Stanford political economist Terry Carl first went to Venezuela as a graduate student.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

He said lover.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

She said it was the lover.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

So Venezuela was richer than ever.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

But there was one problem.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Those riches were being mismanaged, many would argue.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Terry told us this story of a visit with Juan Pablo Perez Alfonso, that key oil minister who had driven so much of Venezuela's oil policy in the past.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Juan Pablo was out of office at this point.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

And when Terry told him that she was planning to do some research on OPEC, Juan Pablo told her, no, no, look elsewhere.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Yes, yes, yes.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Yes.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

That one translates pretty clearly.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Corruption is another classic feature of the resource curse.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

And Terry was seeing some of this up close.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Nothing.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

The most striking thing she saw out there?

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

was what looked like a big old tire on the ground.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

In Terry's defense, it is the name of a copper company, and the groundbreaking Ice Cube movie, Anaconda, had not come out yet.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

So how was she to know?

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

In the 80s, oil prices dropped.