Kerry Godliman

We can just go over it quickly.

I did Parenting Hell because I'm promoting a tour, which we may or may not get into, but I am promoting a tour.

So I did another podcast.

I'm sorry.

There are other podcasts.

No, absolutely very much not the vibe.

I think we spent the first 10 minutes talking about Josh's duvet.

It was very relaxed.

It was very relaxed.

It's sort of loosely about parenting, but it kind of deviates.

So like all great podcasts, you deviate from the main subject.

I'm sure that happens in your cycling ones.

If those two lazy sods would just only push it a bit and get off their arses and work a bit harder.

They have got a lot to learn.

If only Daniel Naska's parents had known what he was doing in that garage.

No, you panic.

Do you do this after a podcast?

Sometimes you panic and go, ah, I might message someone to ask them to cut that bit out.

Because the delicate thing about talking about your children is, especially now mine are older, is that kind of slight concern that you maybe shouldn't have said certain things.

So there was a little bit of text activity where I was like, ah, maybe leave that bit out or this bit out because of their privacy.