Kerry Godliman

No, but if you don't try, you won't find out, will you?

Thank you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm much happier now, David.

I knew this would happen.

You would reassure me.

Podcasting is like jazz.

Jazz is something, well, not for you because your dad was a jazz musician, but it's definitely something that comes to you as you age, I think.

Like you come round to it.

I like a bit of jazz now, but I didn't when I was young.

One of the best music gigs, it wasn't jazz, but years ago, one of the best music gigs I think I ever went to was Badly Drawn Boy.

He was literally just noodling about.

I mean, there were some really crafted bits, don't get me wrong.

Sure.

Between the songs, he was noodling about, like banging instruments and just playing.

For lack of a better... He was just playing.

And honestly, it was one of the best music gigs I've ever seen.

actively go i'm gonna put on some jazz without doing it for comedic effect i'm there now i'll stick on some jazz and do it earnestly wow probably not sit and listen scratching my chin but i would be enjoying it and not be like ironically listening to jazz

That's very impressive.

Did you say that at the end?