Kerry Washington

having listened to a few episodes.

And I was able to do so effectively.

She's a professional liar.

I'm an actor.

But I knew just from hearing Emily talk about it and also hearing my husband Namdi talk about it, I had enough context clues and reference points.

to pretend that I had seen, but I hadn't.

I hadn't watched and listened.

And so then I went home and felt bad, so I started listening.

And then I was like, this is the best podcast ever.

I have watched Ozark.

Well, I've just admitted that I lie sometimes, but I try not to.

It makes me spiral.

When somebody doesn't come back, and maybe that just means I'm an insecure person, it freaks me out.

The house manager tells you.

Because you don't want to go and not like what you see and then have to lie about it.

Oh, aren't you a person of integrity?

It depends on the show and the audience.

Like, for me, I could never in my life go to a show that has a black cast and not go backstage because they will know that I'm there.

Yeah.

There's an actor who I knew had come to see a play I was in called American Son.