Kevin Bieksa

So I think that's kind of like what the Leafs are asking for, right?

Yeah.

Like, know about analytics, know about that, and know how to analyze it.

Yeah.

Every GM is different.

Some GMs like to be around a little bit more.

Yeah, I feel weird saying I've been out for dinner with the GMs.

But I don't think that's bad.

No.

And like, and my wife was kind of, you know, the leader amongst the wives, like handling all the charity endeavors and everything.

So she was, she was kind of the head of that role.

So that was, that was also part of it when a new coach or a GM comes in and their wife wants to get acclimated to the city and the organization.

So yeah,

But no, like, it's rare.

It's very, very, very rare.

I don't think, I think 95% of the players have any interaction with him at all.

The coach is like, okay, you're on the third line because you're not giving me this.

And you're on, you're not on the power play for now.

And then the GM is like, you should be on the power play.

You should be on the second line.