Kevin Bieksa

Yeah.

That's I think what you're saying.

And mixed messages.

I didn't know you told them that.

interesting gms like um i didn't really love going into bob murray's office in anaheim just because you never knew what was going to happen it could be just an absolute lashing yeah right or it could be something not a big deal so like whenever you know one of the trainers would say hey you got murph wants to talk to you oh my god here we go hopefully it's about somebody else

So lots going on there.

I could talk about these kind of things all day long.

Well, so where do you want to focus on like from Hagel's perspective?

Yeah.

You love the fight from Hagel.

Um, I wasn't a big celebration guy and I don't know how you are with that.

I'm talking about after a fight, after a fight, I can't, and somebody can prove me wrong if they can find it.

I don't ever remember celebrating after a fight because there has to be a respect and humility that because the next fight you could be knocked out.

Right.

Like, we're talking about bare-knuckles fighting.

Like, one guy could hit you the next fight with a shot, and you could be out cold.

So I was always very careful to celebrate.

That being said, he's at home.

He's trying to get the crowd going.

The one that you're not big enough for me, I don't know.