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Keyu Jin

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1055 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

Maybe they don't even want to do it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

Look at the U.S.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

The U.S.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

is very, very behind on some of the new strategic sectors.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

But once you've reached a certain level of market competition, I think the state needs to withdraw or to retreat because ultimately the state is not the best at allocating resources, picking winners.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

You want the private actors, whether it's the venture funds or the through-market competition, to ultimately decide who gets the most resources.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

But in the beginning, that big push is not really in any of the canonical models that I've studied in economics in the Western school of thought.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

State push, state mobilization, state initiation, that's not there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

But I think if you look at EVs, solar panels, even just thinking about the idea of reforms in the first place, that initial state push was vitally important.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

The other negative, although I think by and large positive aspect is I don't.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

think that we need 80 cities to do their own EV brands, but to get started, maybe that's what it would have taken to drive that incentive.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

And then ultimately, it's up to the market to decide who are the last five remaining EV companies, right, through market mechanisms.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

That's Chinese-style industrial policy.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

Industrial policy was heavily criticized.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

And again, if I talk to my

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

Harvard professors, they will be very, very, very skeptical about the role of the state, especially in such a major way.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

But if you look at the Chinese experience, the evidence for success is all there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

The cities that have pushed the most on supporting that particular sector ultimately did the best in terms of production, but also in terms of innovation, measured by patents.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

It's all in the data.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

But the downside is that a lot of the capital is wasted.