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It doesn't. I love it. Me too. Some cats need it.

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Yes, but. It's it's more vanity things like that we would cut like. And mainly like sometimes like my mom or something like that. But I've never, I mean, trust me, I would have cut way other shit. I've never cut anything crazy. Who's the pickiest? Courtney, but it's not, it's more because she'll say, I say like too many times, so remove this word. It's more that regard.

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It's not really because of story – not storylines because they're following us, but it's not about a story concept. It's more verbiage. Yes. I get it. Yeah. You want to present well. I get it. And she still says like – 500 times. We love you, Courtney.

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Liar. Everyone thinks that. I don't know why. He has his own home. He's an adult. How do you think Rob has managed to stay so private? He's a good old recluse like me. I respect it. But we live in the same community. He comes over all the time. I'm with Dream all the time. Um... But yeah, I don't know why everyone thinks he lives with me.

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And I love that you asked that because I think as a man too, not that it's a bad thing if he did live with me because he did live with me at one point and I loved it, but I begged him to. And I actually wish he did live with me now. But I just think also he wants people to know like I got my own shit going on.

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About where I go. I think that's good though, right? No, I think it's good. But it was unhealthy how reclusive I was. And it was like only kid things. And I wasn't going to do anything adult. And like nobody talked to me because I hate humans. And now I'm like, okay, I could socialize a little bit. I have my social batteries getting turned up a smidge.

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Wow, that's crazy. I don't even remember that. But if I said that, then maybe. Wow. I'm obsessed. A lot happens every year. I'm like, wow, I went on Andy Cohen and said that. Then probably if I said that. Wait, you don't know. But not like a sex tape. It's not like I was like entertaining. Like it was never if this is I think it's all coming back to me.

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Like I'm sure it was something we just did for ourselves. Not like to sell to somebody. Oh, my God. Maybe. I know. Kind of fun. Yeah. Good for me. Oh, my God. Okay. Lie or not. You're like, I have a sex scene. I was like, I do not. And then in two seconds, I changed my answer.

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It could be all of the above. It depends the level of drama. And it's like, you know, is this a code for? And probably like a code for is like we need an in-person meeting, family meeting, stat. Get Christy on the phone. Our publicist is like we need everyone all hands on deck. Or if it's a mild thing, then it could be a text war back and forth. But normally – no, not normally.

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It just depends what it is. But we've had a few in-person meetings before.

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Or do you think it's still as insane? I think it just depends on the month. But I will say for me, but it's also because I've been a recluse recently. But for me, I feel like things have calmed down. But I'm also not dating and all those things. So I don't have a lot of

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Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.

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No. And this happened, it was couples therapy with my ex-husband. And I knew, I know for a fact it was this person, but when it happened, it was, and this was like the height of tabloids. And when it was on the cover, I was like, I just knew instantly, but I was going through so much personally and emotionally.

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I just said, I'm done with this and I'm going to, and people always ask, why didn't I press charges? That's also just not my thing. I know who you are and what you did, and I don't know what that's going to do for me. But what was done was done. That happened. And I also saw a doctor when I was with Lamar when I was trying to get pregnant. I was doing IVF.

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And that doctor or a nurse, I can't say which one because I don't know, they released my IVF records to the press and that's a violation of HIPAA law as well. But I just, those two things really, the therapy thing really messed with me. And I took a break from therapy for a long time. I now have a new therapist. But it took, I mean, at least like 10 years it took me. to trust someone again.

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sometimes it's the second I get in the car that I'm like, what did I like? Oh, my outfit. It's just how I feel. It's too much work. And then you just have to schmooze people. And you're like, I don't really, these aren't enjoyable conversations. They're like, it's just small talk. And nobody cares what I'm doing right now with my life. Shut up. So it's those moments that

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work really well together in life. We really do. And Kim introduced me to her. Kim was like, I'm seeing her. I think she'd be really beneficial to you. And she is. And she's just, and I think it's sort of good because she gets our dynamic even from a deeper level by knowing Kim.

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I think so. Yeah. And she gets to hear Kim's version of the story or Kim's version of not that it's a lie or anything, but like Kim's version of our childhood and my version. And, you know, because we all have different experiences and how we narrate things. And I think that's important.

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If she does, she's really good at not acting like that.

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Okay. I think it just depends. I didn't for years. Lately I'll – not that I'm really reading. I like to engage with fans. So it's more like I like to – she's like, hi, I love you. Like nice things because I'm just appreciative. But when it gets – I could tell if I'm in like a dark place and I'm like I'm not strong enough to read things. So it just really depends on me. But I wouldn't say no. Okay.

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Right now, I feel like I'm really good. Like I'm in a good place. I don't think – I'm like, oh, shut up. Like I could just brush it off and be like – I don't know. Someone said something to me the other day. I'm like, daddy, chill. Like leave me the fuck alone. But things just don't get under my skin. But before –

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It would probably be more, I think, when I was fresh off of the Tristan cheating on me stuff, if it was any comment about me being weak or like I can't keep a man or things like that that maybe I was already insecure about. I was like, okay, that's a trigger, but more so because I'm insecure about it. If they said it to me on another day, it probably wouldn't bother me.

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It just depends where you're at mentally. Totally. There's some days I'm like I can't – like there was a time that I was like I can't even go outside because I was so embarrassed to even look at people. And that – I'm like but why did I carry that with me like now that I'm out of that? And I don't know. And it was obviously something –

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that I had to process and go through and work on myself about, but I'm not going to deny that I wasn't at that low of a point where there were times I would not leave my house because I just didn't even want to look at someone in the eyes. Like that's how dark it got for me.

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Oh gosh, I sound like such a grinch.

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It's silly to me, but when people say we're not talented, and I think in the traditional sense, like, no, we're not singing and dancing. Yes. But nowadays, there's so much more to people. And I think we have so much power in marketing and branding. And we've been in this business for 20 years. And to be able to do that and to do that with six, seven, if you include my mom, different

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unique individuals and sustain and evolve and keep that going, you would call, if we were men, you'd be like, they're marketing geniuses. But because we're women, people want to sort of poke and make fun. And we're along for the ride. We will make fun. We're along with the jokes. We'll go with it because we have a good sense of humor and we get it. But traditionally, yes, we're not sitting here

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singing on a stage, performing. And I respect that. But we also deserve a little respect in terms for how long that we've been sustaining in this industry and evolving and not just coasting. And to do it with so many different people.

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Oh, we think that all the time. But we also get it. Like we're the first ones to, we take it on the chin. And I also think that's what we all should do. I think, yes, it's okay to still prove your place in the world, but also understand if people aren't,

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forward thinkers with you because I get it at the time people couldn't understand well how are they how are they acquiring such want and desire and attention but what do they do like I get that and but we've proven ourselves and especially when people like you said we're praying and trying for our downfall and we were like No, we're good.

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They're so unique and different in their own ways. But if I had Kendall's body, I would say Kendall.

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I was like, it's her texting. Hold on. The queen. I'm not in glam phone call. Okay, boss.

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Well, I would be – I would – Because I would, it depends who, but I would say Kendall, Kylie, Kim on conference.

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So I'm not like, that petty of a person. I wish I was like, but I will say I'm going to fuck your dad, but it doesn't happen. But that would be like my dream if I was like that petty, but no, that's never happened.

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Because in my soul, I want to. But then I'm like, I will braid your hair later. Like, I'm such a pussy. But I pretend. I am. Like, in my soul, I'm like, and if when I'm mad at you, I will fucking go off and I'm a machine gun with my words and insults. And then I'm like, all right, whatever. I'm over it. I got all the energy out.

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Oh, my God. She has to be in glam. I respect her.

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I would say me. Not anymore, though. No. Cancel, cancel. Not anymore. I do not claim that energy anymore.

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Oh, I've gone far. I've gone far. I mean, yeah. I've either... Kim has this way of knowing how to hack into people's voicemails when voicemails were a thing. So we've done that in the past. Oh, my God. I was picturing you guys like sitting around the kitchen, getting in there, screaming when you hear it.

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Screaming, throwing the phone down or like because you're like, oh, my God, like we didn't think we would actually get in and we get in.

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Probably every time. I mean, I've also... I've also to my... Yes, I've had trackers on people's cars before. Yeah. Oh, she's gone. Listen, gone girl over here.

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Well, that's what I hate. Do not act like you did not put me in this position and you did not make me be this psychopath. But I think that's something I...

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Oh, by myself? Mm-hmm. Never leaving the bed. By myself in my bed watching TV. What are you watching? I mean, I love a documentary. I just watched shit. Is it apple cider vinegar? Oh, my God. Did I make that up? No, but that sounds. It's the story about the this health influencer from Australia that fake typing cancer. Oh, OK. Fascinating. And it's it's like a two episode.

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It's an addiction. Once you start, you can't stop. I've been there. I have been there. I remember my ex-husband, and he remembers this story, I'm sure. We were married. He... was doing his thing and he went down to some motel in downtown LA and was with a girl and I was young. Not that, I mean, I'm like maybe 26, something like that.

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This is a big moment. I am a trendsetter in the family.

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Probably still old enough to not behave like this, but I was there and I remember asking the guy at the front, I was like, hey, is... Lamar Odom. Where's Lamar Odom? He's this big guy. You can identify him. He told me what room he was in. I saw in the window that him and this girl were They were either naked or she was in lingerie, something like that. I knocked on the door.

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They answered it for some reason. And I just started going ballistic. And I remember the next day, it was, I think, Penelope's birthday party. And it was a cowboy party. And my knuckles were all bloody and gross. And I just had bandanas wrapped around. I was on theme. And I acted as if nothing ever happened. And I don't think I ever said a thing. He could not understand how I knew where he was.

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And I was like, I don't give a shit. I'm not telling anybody anything. And why are you in a motel in downtown LA at three in the morning?

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Why are you here? But also everyone told like, it's like, you're this seven foot tall man. You're in, you're on the Lakers. Everyone knows who you are. You're very identifiable. So I think how I found out was people on Twitter were like, Lamar Odom is did it. And so I, Of course. And that's psychotic. I searched his hashtag for his name. Of course. Like any real girl does.

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It's an obsession and an addiction. And the best thing is when you're free of that. And I pray I never am back there again.

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I won't be. I'm sending all the energy.

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So I have heard before when I was in my 30s, like, oh, turning 40s is so great. Everyone's like, it's freeing. It's this. So I always had a really good perception of what 40 was going to be like. And my 30s were just really tough for me, like a lot of traumatic experiences.

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I had great experiences like by having my kids, but either business or so many things weren't going the way that I really wanted them to or how I envisioned. And I think that for me, at least, I envisioned being married and having kids. And I just had this different fantasy, I guess, or just what I thought when I was 20, what was going to happen in my life. And those things didn't happen.

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And then I was like, you know what? Instead of making this such a sob story, I'm going to be like, I can't. Let me change the narrative. Get all the shit out in my 30s. And I'm going to leave them in my 30s. And they're just going to be stepping stones and things that make me stronger and better for my 40s. And... intentionally in the last two years of my 30s, I called it shedding this negativity.

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I actually saw this – he's like a spiritual healer. He was like, your new decade is going to be this fresh start for you. He just sort of confirmed everything that I felt. I started a couple of new businesses in my 30s, but they didn't come true until my 40s. I just felt like now so many great things are happening for me. Not that they weren't my 30s, but The traction was slower.

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She ends up not having it. She's still on the run. And like whatever. But it's fascinating. So I like things like that. Like sort of gossipy. But it's a docu. I need that. I love that.

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And I'm not going to hold on to any of the negativity that I had in my 30s. So I'm like, okay, that was all the bullshit. I'm leaving it there. And I'm only receiving and accepting beautiful, positive things for my 40s.

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Well, I think at first you have to go through those feelings and it's okay to feel it. Like I definitely felt like a failure or my time passed. And I think it's natural to compare, at least for me. I have all these successful siblings and I see all what they're doing and I'm like, okay, but I'm sort of stagnant at this place. And for me, I love to pray.

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I listen to, I have a Bible app that I do every morning. I need that time for myself, but it sets the tone for my day. And if I don't do that, or if I don't at least have your positive affirmations or whatever that is that really encourages yourself, if it's the gym, like little things, you have to take that you time. But I took time intentionally this year

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to self-reflect and be like, what am I doing? Because it's not everybody else. So what am I doing that's not sticking? Or let me change how I'm handling something else. But when it comes to marriage or kids, that I feel bad that we put that pressure on ourselves. And it's hard not to because essentially we do have this biological clock that's ticking when it comes to babies.

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But also what is really cool is I did do IVF in my 20s. And when you froze embryos then, you had to sign something that when you're, I believe it said like when you're 40 or 42, if you don't use these embryos yet, you have to either donate the, you have your choices, either donate them to science or donate them to people for adoption or terminate them.

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You know, maybe by my bedside drawer is the more like it's such like a mishmash of things. Like I have.

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And you signed which ones that you agreed to. And then I made embryos, I want to say when I was like 35. And that time span now, it's at like 50 something. And so it moved about 10 years because our life expectancy is longer. So I'm saying that to say, that we don't have to have kids as early as we once thought we could. My mom years ago had Kendall and Kylie at 40 and 41.

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And that was, what, 28 years ago or whatnot, 29 years ago. And so I think sometimes we have these expectations or we think by 32, if I don't have X, Y, and Z done, then it's over for me. But that's not essentially the case. And I think we have to focus on what makes us happy And everything else will fall into plan. And if it's in God's will, it's going to happen, not to get all spiritual.

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But I do think what's meant for you is always going to find you no matter what. But you have to believe it's going to happen. And mainly you have to believe that you're worthy of that. There was a long time that I didn't think I was worthy of a certain type of love. And I think that shows.

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And I really had to work on myself and say that I'm worthy of the same type of love that so many other people are.

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Well, we have vibrators. I mean, sure. But. I wasn't going to disclose all that. But, you know, yes, in the bedside drawer. But I have like – because I don't – so – I don't smoke weed recreationally, but I have weed pens to smoke to go to sleep because I hate the feeling so much that it just knocks. I could never smoke and talk to you.

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So what's interesting is when we started, we were just supposed to be show filler. I think Lindsay Lohan had a reality show that was supposed to go on E and something happened where she scrapped it last minute. And E was like, we need something filler, just six episodes. And my mom and Kim were like, we're going to do it.

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Or I don't know how that conversation went, but basically we had this show and And we were told, don't worry. I think the quote was, don't get too comfortable here. You're just filler. So when we first started, we were like, we just weren't thinking that people are going to watch this. Do you know what I mean? We were just like, we're filler. We're told not to get comfortable here.

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I'm good. I'm really good. I'm really excited to be here. I called Kim on my way here. Oh my God. Was she like, don't say anything stupid. Don't give the family tea. No, I think she knows I probably will. So she's like, just think about all your answers. I'm like, I do not think before I speak. And that's my problem.

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It is what it is. And so we were just being morons, like just who we are, like just not overthinking it. And it turned into something. It snowballed into something really great. But I didn't think everything through, if you will, and so I'm just being me. But I also have always tried to keep that for me. I don't want to overthink or else I think it really changes how the show is perceived.

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And so with that, not that I want all of these things to be played out on the show, but I've really made a conscious effort to not edit and overthink I feel like it's fair game. If something's in the press that's true and that's happening, it's my obligation to have that on TV because that's what in fact is happening.

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And that's not fair for me to say, you know what, I don't want that on the show because it's in the press or because it hurts me or whatever. I feel like I can't be the only one going through certain things.

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And if it makes somebody else feel seen or if it helps somebody get through something, or it doesn't have to be the exact same thing, but if it's something that they can relate to at all, I really hope that I make someone feel more seen and safe and that they're not alone on this island that feels so incredibly isolating.

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So with the Tristan stuff, when we... Kim, I think it was found out that Tristan was cheating on me when I was pregnant. She was, I, if I remember correctly, I think she was about to sit down for keeping up interviews and it happened while she was in the interview chair. I don't know if as much would have been shown if that's not how it was unfolding in real time.

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We just happened to be filming all the fucking time. So it did happen that way. Um, And then that happened. I went into labor 48 hours later and I chose for... I agreed to have the cameras in the delivery room because I wanted that for true. And I chose for Tristan to be there because it wasn't about me. And people couldn't get over that. And also, I've never had a baby before at this point.

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It's my first pregnancy. I want to have what I envision, like we just talked about. But I also wanted... I just wanted what I wanted. And I don't know if that was the right thing. And I don't know. I just did what I felt was the right thing to do by saying to my daughter, your dad was in the delivery room. I don't need to tell her.

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One day she's going to know everything because she's going to be old enough to know. But I don't think she needs to know, oh, I didn't have your dad in there because I was so angry. Do you know what I mean? I felt like these are – I can't make a permanent decision off of temporary emotions. I'm not going to hate Tristan forever, but I will never get that birth experience back.

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You're just like, listen. I either will hysterically laugh the whole time. My mom and I did gummies together on the show and- I don't know. They didn't kick in because we're not used to gummies. And we went to a restaurant and we were so high at the restaurant and we're crying and we ate like five bags of chips and we're just like, we're ridiculous.

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So there's so many things I did for my child at that time. And I remember I was in Cleveland. I was staying there after the birth of True. And I was in this isolated bubble of being alone with my child, with these hormones. I would not watch TV. It was a huge media story. I couldn't even leave the house. We were surrounded by paparazzi. It was really isolating and overwhelming. I had no family.

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I honestly don't know, but Little by little, Tristan and I just started reconnecting. And seeing this man with your brand new baby and all these things, yes, you do get blinded by so many things. I'm not going to deny that. But interestingly enough, I always had this guard up after that. I always felt something wasn't right. And that is something that I don't regret because I have Tatum.

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But that's something that I always remind myself. I could never fully get back there. And he knew that. And we would talk about it. And we even did therapy over it. And I never could fully trust him or I never felt safe around him again. And either if he hugged me or little things like that, there were things that... Anybody could tell that I had major guards up.

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And so I'm not saying what I did was right, but there was God had other plans because I had my son, but there was something that I pushed to the side and I don't know why it could have been that I was just so hormonal and new. I don't know. Um, But yeah, it's just I know if I didn't have a baby, I never would have stayed with Tristan, like ever.

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I think the first one hurt the most because I was pregnant. But also, I didn't get to sit with my feelings enough for the first one. I gave birth... less than 48 hours later after the first cheating scandal happened with Tristan.

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And I don't know if this sounds right, but it's what I can think to say is that I don't even think I was able to process everything that happened because I think if I maybe was six months pregnant and that happened, I probably would have walked away and never went back. But because I gave birth less than two days later and then you're you sort of.

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But so I have people that are always like, oh, I didn't know you smoke. I'm like, I sort of don't. I just smoke to go to sleep because I have a hard time sleeping.

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I buried my head in the sand and I was like, I just want to have this bliss that I always dreamed of and have a brand new baby and have the daddy here. And and I think who wouldn't. But it's really when you've never been in that position, it's really easy to judge and to say things. I only did the best that I knew how.

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And I think the worst part of that experience was how much I let down my younger sisters. Because I remember they were like, he's going to do this again. Don't like stay with him. And I remember, I don't know exactly what was said, but I just remember sort of the like the disappointment in them.

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They would never say that to me and they've never said that to me, but I've always felt how much I've disappointed them by staying and doing that again because I didn't do that. I was always like, fuck him and they're disrespecting you. And so I still feel really horrible about that because I've always been this big sister to them. But I will say, so I don't

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Maybe the second one hurt more because I lived with it for so much longer. And maybe I've had more shame with the second scandal because I sort of knew it was going to happen again.

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talk to Kylie and Kendall about it like now having hindsight like I realized like I never I still have this like feeling that I let you guys down and I like I would talk to them about anything but I don't think they would ever admit that I let them down because I don't I don't think that they realize how much I saw in their faces and

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Like I don't think – and I think now True is going to be seven next month. And so seven years have gone by. And so much life has happened for Kendall and Kylie as well. So maybe they even understand more than seven years ago. But I'll never forget their faces. And I don't think for a second they would even feel like I disappointed them.

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But I remember those faces and it's hard to forget something like that.

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Turn the brain off a little bit. And I also have something Courtney gave me for Christmas. It's called a biocharger. What is that? Exactly. It looks like a device from Back to the Future. I'm not kidding. I don't know if this generation knows what Back to the Future is. But it's this big ass device, like the size of this chair. And someone has to come and give you a tutorial.

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It's just perspective. But I probably would have done the same if I saw someone going through that. And sometimes you can see a car crash happening before it actually happens. And when you asked which one hurt more...

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at first like my initial reaction was oh the one with true the first one but then I was like but actually no I think the second one because I I had so much more time to live with it and you know I hid it from public that I was having a second baby, even though I found out he had another child. And then I had to deal with this privately. And that was almost worse.

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But I was so ashamed to tell the world that I was having another baby because I already knew what they were going to say. And I already knew what everyone was going to say about me. And I already knew in my gut that that was probably going to happen again. And then that sounds... Why would you be with someone?

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But there was just this, now I knew in hindsight, oh, that's what that feeling was of never feeling safe with him again. That I just, my body sort of knew a woman's intuition. This isn't the right fit for you. But at the time I couldn't identify what that is. I don't know if that makes sense.

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Well, from my experience, I don't think people really can change in that regard. But I also think, I don't know, I would have to know like the context of the story. I don't want to like tear anyone's dreams down. For me, I would say, once people show you who they are, believe them. And that's something I had to learn the hard way. And also, you have to listen to your gut and your intuition.

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And I really was trying to mute mine, I think, because I wanted to have this vision of what my life was more than I would listen to something. But what kind of life is that?

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Also, it's like you have to ask people if they want this gift. You don't just spring it on them because where am I putting such a thing? But it is really cool actually. It does

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And the advice I would give when I was single with no kids is so different than the advice I would give having kids. And it's really, really fucking hard when you have children involved and you have this fairy tale that you really want to fulfill and live out and you can and don't, but that doesn't mean that another fairy tale can't be created.

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I know that's sad because I think in your 20s, you really believe that love is all you need. Um, and Lamar was one of Lamar is, you know, I really do think it was the right person, wrong time. And I have so much love for Lamar and I, and every relationship that I have, like, I'm so grateful for them, even the worst of them.

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Like, I really think that they mold me and they make me more empathetic and compassionate and they just, they build me in a different way. Um, yeah. And with Lamar, that was one of the best. It's crazy because it was one of the best chapters of my life. And then also, it took away so much of my innocence.

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There were things that I was exposed to that I never in a million years thought I would be exposed to. I definitely lived a double life for a long time. And again, even things I never would have even predicted that I would have been living or I don't think people could imagine.

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But when it was one of the most awkward things I've ever filmed, Lamar and I have so much history and to not talk to someone in almost 10 years and then to be around them and I didn't know what to expect. I was nervous. He was clearly very nervous. I felt like without me realizing it, because we sat for four and a half hours. So what you guys saw, I think was maybe a 20, 30 minutes tops.

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We were there for four and a half hours. And there were things that I didn't realize until watching. I sort of blacked out. And it was just my trauma taking over. And this was me in autopilot. And how many things either he did or said that were triggering me to the old Lamar. So I noticed myself being short or snappy or this or that. And I didn't like that version of me.

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And I'm sure he didn't like that version of me or whatnot. And maybe I triggered him in different ways. I don't know. But it was... I really love that I got that experience with him, but I think there's so much more that maybe needs to be said and done. But I also don't know if I need that right now.

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And I didn't think for a second I still was holding on to anything. And so then when I was with him or certain like just certain things that either made me have flashbacks to 10 years ago, I was I just noticed that I turned my brain off. Because so much I didn't even remember being said or done until I watched the show.

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And I was like, oh, damn, that was a little harsh or I can't believe I said that to him. But it's wild that I would black out at daytime. It's not like I was on anything. That's why I was like – it was so bizarre to me. I've never been in that situation before. Yeah. Um, but I also, like, I'm so grateful for all those experiences too. And I, but I do think maybe more does need to be discussed.

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I just don't feel the need or the urgency to do it right now. Do you think you would ever get married again? I would love to get married again. You would? Yeah. A lot of people think that I am very like maybe cynical about love and I'm a hopeless romantic. I believe in love and I think it's beautiful and I love love. the union of marriage. I respect it so much. And you're single right now?

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I'm single right now. Are you dating? I have not dated in over three years since... Chloe! Tatum was in my surrogate's belly. Okay. Would you... Yeah, over three years.

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Nobody cares about the radiation when it comes to their phone.

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So I think I need to work on things with myself still because I'm really happy. I don't feel lonely. I don't feel any of that stuff. I feel great, which is actually like concerning because I feel like I could go this way for like 10 more years.

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I'm watching my documentaries. No one's bothering me, taking a bed space. Like I'm good. But I also think a lot of it is too that I don't know I've worked on my confidence so much and I've gotten that back or in a good place. But I don't know how confident I am in trusting myself when it comes to picking men just because of my past. And so I'm working on that.

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And I don't want just distractions in my life. I'm not lonely or bored in that regard. If I need a night out, I have my girlfriends. And I just don't – once you get to a certain place – You don't even miss a thing. I don't need anything. But I need to work on feeling confident in who I'm picking. Okay.

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Does he have social media?

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I hope not. I love that.

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Doesn't? No, I love that. That's like a big turn on.

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Right. Then that makes me like, oh, that's weird. Because what are you? Are you have a family that you're hiding from? Yeah.

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Oh, that would be so hard. I don't think so.

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Yeah, basically. And she I probably care because she hangs out with me more than my sisters half the time.

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Kendall. Kendall and Court. But Kendall is like no nonsense. Love that for you. I love that for her too.

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Today, she was like, don't bring up the blowjob story. I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, but it was true. She's like, well, it doesn't make me look good. And I was like, well, it was like the early 90s. It was a different time.

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No, I feel like she's the intrusive one. But you ask her and she might have a different story. Okay. So she spies like if ever there's cars in the driveway because we have two different driveways, but you can see both of them. And she will always ask like, oh, I see there's a white car outside. Whose car is that? And I'm like, I don't fucking know. And like, stop asking me.

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Like, come on. It was the early 90s. It's fine. So good. I don't know. I mean, she's just a very forward thinking type of mother. And she's the thing that I love about my mom is you can literally tell her anything and she's fine with it. She just wants to be in the know and she will find like she's also a problem solver. So if there's anything that's not going right, she'll find help.

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the solution. So I don't know off the top of my head, but she will help the girl out.

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You want to know what's crazy? What? The older we get, the pull gets smaller. I'm like, I don't know. I think if I was 20, I would probably be like, that's a deal breaker.

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But now I'm like, Do we need to talk about it? We're good, right?

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I don't know if that... Like, is that... That's not bad.

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If they have a baby together... Oh, that's where we draw the line. Okay, we're not... Yeah, we're not sharing baby daddies, but... I don't know if you slept with someone 20 years ago. What the fuck am I supposed to do? It's hard out here. I kind of agree. Like, especially if they're like, oh, he was so good and a great guy. How awkward. But I personally wouldn't care.

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Like, if this was me and let's say Kim or Kourt or whoever single was like, oh, I met this guy. I'm like, oh, my God, I fucked him when I was 20. But it's fine. Like, I wouldn't care.

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No, I draw the line. Like maybe hooking up because I can hook up with people and like not think about it. I'm not one. Really? I can't. I haven't done it in a while, but you don't get those days. I mean, when I was younger, I was able to. I don't. It's a different world when you have kids. I don't know. But also I think it's more like it's transactional. Like this is business because I have kids.

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Like get in here. Let's do it. Get in here and get out. You're not staying because you're not meeting my kids. So that's where my mindset I think is. But I cannot. And yes, I'm going to stereotype. I will not be with another NBA player. But yes, if I need to fuck or whatever, maybe. Maybe. I don't know. I'm not there, but I'm not going to say no, but I don't know what I just said. No, no, no.

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No, ideally not. Okay. But again, I would hook up, but you know, never say never, but I just, I don't feel like I'm a year later. I know you're later. I'm like, I'm married. I'm getting married. I mean, and I hate to stereotype, but I haven't had great experiences is all I'm going to say. Girl, that is so fucking fair.

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Well, I am. It's Chloe in Wonderland. So it's all about like, go down the rabbit hole with me. I have so many bizarre curiosities and I sincerely am just fascinated by the strangest things. I just watched a documentary on atomic bombs and I am like, Hell yes. I'm so dorky in that way that people probably wouldn't think.

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But yeah, I just want to talk about – I really have bizarre weird fascinations and I want to indulge in them. Are you going to have your sisters on the pod? So the funny thing is Kylie was like, I'm so offended you haven't asked me to be on the podcast. And I'm like, well – what are you going to give me? What would you give me that I don't already know about?

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I'm 40 years old and I have two kids like it's. She's very curious as to who's over there all the time. But what I found out recently that she does is when I'm not home, I guess she finds out that I'm not home and she goes in my closet and she looks at things to borrow or take. And I found that out actually today. Wait, how did you find it out? Because I asked her, I was like, God,

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I already know it's going to be very contrived. I don't need this. But most people would die to have my sisters on. I'm more like, whatever. We'll think about it. But my mom, yes. Yes. Love Kris Jenner. Because we also are like, Laverne and Shirley, Lucy and Ethel. Don't know if these people know who that is. But, you know, we're just like fun.

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Yes. And I have like a list of things what I should have asked about. And I just, it's too much pressure for me.

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So I love Dolly Parton. I really, really do.

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I know I love her, but her poor husband just passed away of 60 years and my heart breaks for her. I'm not kidding.

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Not the right time. But at one point, maybe one day I love her, but I do. I'm so excited. I just had this UFOologist on and I love shit like that. So like.

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You've done an excellent job. Yeah, I wouldn't change a thing. Like as sad or hard and you know, depressing or whatever, as some situations may have been, the great outweighs all the bad that's ever happened to me. And I am just proud of how I've handled everything. And I'm most proud of how me and my family have stuck together and just enjoy the ride.

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what, like, I just need to know what, because I keep getting alerts, like, Kris Jenner is on your property. And I'm like, but what are you doing? Like, it's always when I'm gone, do you not know that I'm not, like, that I'm home or not home? And she's like, oh, well, I just wanted to look in your closet for something. I was like, well, what are you looking for?

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And she's like, just to see if there's anything I could borrow. And I'm like, to me, I'm like, you could ask. And you're doing it intentionally when I'm gone. Maybe she loves the thrill. Chris loves the thrill of snooping around. Oh, she does. But then I'm like, well, what else are you looking through? All my drawers.

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Yes. What does Chris think right now? I think she wants to be here. She was dying. I think I was like, oh, I'm doing this at two. And she's like, if you need to call me just at any time. And I'm like, okay. So I think she really wants to be here. You're like, mom? Give me some time. This is my thing. You can come on next, Chris. Oh, she will.

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You love it. So I do love it. And especially like when you're going to have kids and all of that, that's going to be... It's what people – well, I think people dream of stuff like this. Maybe not being directly next door where we don't even have like a property line. We're a little too close. But 10, 15 minutes, that's such a blessing. And send your kids over there.

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But it's also you don't have – like have your parents – like you got to have dinners with them and there's no excuse. I think it's the best. Do your sisters think you're insane? We all live in the same gated community. But they're not directly. No. You can see through a window. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So they think I'm insane. But then Kylie is the one that wishes she's like me.

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She's like, I wish I was next to mom. And I'm like, well, we could always trade houses. So, yeah.

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Right now, because it does change, but it changes on probably who's doing the most. I don't know. But if like she was here, she's going to say me because I'm here. But it always goes between Kim and Kylie, those two.

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Yeah, no, I am. But see, I know where I stand. Like, I don't care. You don't need the flowers. No, it doesn't bother me because I'm also like, girl, you're the one that calls me for everything. So we're good.

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I do. I'm not insecure about it.

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She has. Oh my God. She has more times than less, her and Kim. So I think that saying is like, cool. I'm like, mom, that's so badass. And I think sometimes it bothers her. And I'm like, why does that bother you? But- Kim has known about the cheating. I think both of the cheating stuff, I think Kim found out first. I know definitely this, I think both, which is crazy before I knew.

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And then my mom with my ex-husband, she knew things before I did and had to tell me, or even now, like just the other day, she had to tell me something crazy. And I was like, are we okay that this is still happening?

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I would rather a family member than a stranger.

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I agree. Yeah. I don't like that any of this stuff happens, but I would rather it them. I'm not someone that gets mad at the messenger.

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Well, and we always say we get how you see

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someone that's in the limelight and then they're sort of they spiral out of control and I also get that because they don't have anyone else that's going through it with them like even if they have a family with them if they're not in the forefront sometimes it's really hard to understand what that person's going through and we feel really fortunate that even at the worst of it we're like but at least we get it together and we can really support one another and

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So I would say that for a few years, and I think it started with COVID, I think sort of everyone became social recluses for a minute, but that was my good initiation into being a recluse. And then it took me a good four years to get out of it. I feel like this last, since I've been 40, I've been 40 for like six months or something, but I feel now I'm a little more social, but I'm choosy.

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And no one can ever go too far because we're like, snap out of it. We know what you're going through. You can have a bad month, a bad week, whatever. But we're there to support each other and get each other out of it. And they're not relatable conversations that you can have with your girlfriends. And I get that. And so for you to vent these things to your friend group, they're going to be like,

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What are you taught? Like, I don't care. And those aren't real problems, but they're real in my reality. So it's nice where you have this circle of trust that you feel safe with and you can vent about the most superficial, ridiculous things, but they matter to you at that moment. And so it is a blessing.

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The one with all the baby daddies is the entire family group chat. And that is like my grandma, my cousin Cece. It's like everyone. There's the OG group chat, which is just the siblings and my mom. There's sisters and mom, because maybe my brother, if we're talking about men or whatever, my brothers want to hear it. There's just sisters. Courtney's removed herself out of some group chats.

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So I know she thinks... Or at one point, Kim outed everyone and said there was a not Courtney group chat. That has been gone. But now there is a not Courtney group chat, but unintentionally because she left a group chat. But when people leave, I love to add them back. Like, who the fuck do you think you are? You are not leaving. And then they get pissed. I just keep adding them.

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Chloe, she's like, leave me alone. Well, who runs away from a conversation? Either have it or mute us like Kendall and Kylie does.

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I have to say, liar. I could do it like that. Okay. You didn't FaceTune your cat. No, I didn't. Okay. Love that. And just so you know, because I was like, wow, that's crazy that people would think that. I tried to see if it would work in FaceApp and it doesn't. So if somebody just wanted to check, you can't do it.

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I tried because I was like, I just need to know if you fucking can because that's insane if it lets you FaceApp an animal and you can't.