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Kim Ghattas

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Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

The Palestinians are kind of already aware

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

that an invasion is in the works and it's going to be big.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And they have actually warned the Americans as well, because there are ties, back channels between the Americans and the Palestinians at the time, much to Israel's displeasure.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

Believe it or not, there are conversations between the Palestinians and the Falange.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

I mean, Arafat and Bashir Jumail are sworn enemies, but they actually talk to each other via back channels.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And in fact, at some point, Bashir Jumail sent a warning to a Palestinian official saying, you are at risk.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

The Israelis are coming to assassinate you to try to save his life.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

But that came too late.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And that's a side story.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

So even

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

within war, there were certain rules of civility amongst the atrocious orgies of killing, which is really quite incredible.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

But that invasion starts on the 6th with these tanks rumbling across the border, and there are some incredible footage, there's incredible descriptions, there's reporting, there's also testimonies of Israeli soldiers who, when they get past the 40 kilometers,

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

that Sharon had said the invasion would stop at are like, what are we doing?

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

Where is this going?

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And of course you have, as I retell in my forthcoming book, the Americans still convinced that it's just going to stop at 40 kilometers.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

in Washington.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

That's their conviction.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And the American ambassador in Tel Aviv is relaying that message to Washington as well.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

But the American ambassador in Beirut calls Washington and says, I can see from my residence Israeli tanks approaching the airport in Beirut.