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Kim Ghattas

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Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

That is way beyond 40 kilometers from the border.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

That's, I think, sort of 80 kilometers, if not more, from the border with Israel.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And the response

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

on the other side of the line is, no, we've been assured that they're not approaching Beirut by our people in Tel Aviv.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And the ambassador is furious.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

He says, I'm the ambassador in Beirut.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And I'm telling you, I'm looking out the window.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

I can see the tanks.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

I can see the tanks.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

They're actually almost outside my own door.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

Yeah.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And it just, this episode, which, you know, I spoke to the American ambassador who was there, Ambassador Robert Dillon, and I love to call him Bob Dillon, which is how he's known as well.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And he's, you know, above 90 now and still sharp as a tack.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And I interviewed him in his retirement home in Virginia a couple of years ago.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And he was, it was all unfolding as the war in Gaza was happening.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

And he was saying, I can't believe that we're going through the same thing, that diplomats are warning us.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

about what this is going to mean for America, that American diplomats are warning about Israeli actions and some officials don't want to listen because they don't want to believe it.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

Or as he says, and I'm quoting the ambassador, oh, more of that Arab stuff.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

We don't believe it.

Empire: World History
352. Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon (Part 7)

It's not happening.