Kimbal Musk

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257 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2024 last heard Mar 2024

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What I thought you were going to say, what I thought you were going to end the sentence with, live up to my father's expectations. Mm-hmm. That's what most people say. But then you said the second part, which is make up for his mistakes. Mm-hmm. And I think that's actually, that one rings true for me. He was really, he's still alive, but I'm not connected to him.
But he's very, he taught me, the phrase I used to have was he taught me what not to do. So I still actually learned a lot. What kind of human not to be, what kind of actions not to take. And so that kind of closer to living up to his mistakes, but my father was such a train wreck that it's not really mistakes. It's like intentional actions of what not to do. Okay, don't do that.
The good and the bad. There's a critique that my friends give me, which is when they're talking to me, I kind of just drift away. I'm still looking at them. I'm still nodding. I might even respond to them in their conversation, but I'm actually not there. And I've realized that actually that grew up because my father would just verbal abuse.
One way to say it, it is abuse, but it's more just verbal diarrhea for hours and constantly saying, do you understand? He wants to make sure that I'm paying attention. So I trained myself to look like I'm paying attention, but I'm not.
Disappear to some place.
Yeah, and I do that less and less of the time.
Yeah, I think we are a good complement. I'll talk for myself first. My strength is definitely on the social side. I love the gathering place, and I love putting people together in person, and I love to have vibrant debates and conversations. I've been doing that constantly.
forever and including three fun parties and stuff where where I bring people together and I really kind of want people to have fun and be but be vulnerable in a in a not just like silly partying just but actually like let's all connect definition for me of a good party is people laugh and cry Like I want to have people have an emotional connection.
I go to Burning Man every year and that is, there's no question, you will cry at some point during Burning Man. No small talk. No small talk. Yeah, exactly. No small talk. You're totally right on. Like most parties, not parties, but most events you go to are like clubs, these sort of nightclubs. And I never go to those.
And my joke is, why would I want to go to a place where I pay to shout small talk in the dark? Yeah.
But I have, so my compliment for my brother was just bringing joy and social connection. And he's truly, he's an engineering genius. I've worked with him forever and we do compliment each other.
I started cooking when I was 11 years old. My mom is just... She's wonderful, but she's self-admittedly a bad cook. But at the time, it was... I think anyone with kids goes through this. Your kids just want something like spaghetti bolognese or a burger or something. And my mom would do... Brown bread, plain yogurt, and boiled squash.
You know, like the absolute most disgusting things that a child could imagine eating. And so I said, can I cook? And she said, yeah, if you want to cook, no problem. So I went to the grocery store and I, back in those days, a butcher, separate to the grocery store. And I went to the butcher and I said, you know, what can I cook?
And he pulled out a chicken and he said, this is the easiest recipe for you. Just put it on a pan in an oven, a hot oven, because back then the ovens weren't necessarily like 400 degrees or 450 or whatever. And put it in a hot oven for one hour and enjoy. That was it. And so I went home and actually I also brought some French fries. I'll tell you that as well. I'm a kid.
Of course I want French fries. So the roast chicken was French fries. And the chicken came out and it was just fantastic. It was. Absolutely fantastic. That's incredible, by the way. You didn't screw it up the first time. First of all, I think that also kicks off the magic. If you screw it up and you're like, oh, maybe this is not for me. So for me, it really did kick it off.
You started out on a high note. Yeah, right, exactly. But I'll tell the French fry part, which was a disaster. So I cooked the French fries, but I didn't heat the oil first. So I just put the potatoes in the oil and I waited for it to heat up. And I just was throwing up later that night. Your body can't ingest that much because it sucks the oil then. Oh, wow. And so that was a disaster.
But at the time, it tasted good. The real magic, which I also found was wonderful, was when I cooked, my brother, my sister, my mom, all very, very busy, very intense people would sit down. And we would have a meal together. And I was like, wow, this is a powerful, it's a very powerful thing that I've now got where in no other way could I have that connection with my family.
I mean, obviously we stay connected, we're very close, et cetera, but in no other way can we sit down and just talk about things. or talk about whatever's on our mind, or just to just, not even talk, just to be at the table together. And I've done that now through my whole life, my kids, still for my family, and we will do gratitudes at the beginning of our meal.
And it's just, I think what kept me cooking, what made my love of cooking so great, was actually the fact that we would sit down and be present with each other. And I'm also just also hard with that too. So I also get to be present.
paying attention right like what is that what what is why is it food like what else does that sometimes maybe alcohol can do that which is a kind of food i guess yeah but i think alcohol is different because you usually standing when you're doing alcohol so you're you're like you're socializing but it's kind of you're just going to stay in more in the small talk zone yeah right whereas if you sit down and i i see this in my restaurant in the kitchen in boulder
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