Kimbal Musk
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first heard Mar 2024
last heard Mar 2024
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where we have every viewpoint. Or we go to Denver, every viewpoint. We went to Chicago, every viewpoint. And the physical presence of someone being right there is, people are just, they're just very different, absolutely different to what they are online. I think we all know the difference between, you know, you send an email to someone and they misunderstand the email, right?
Oh, if I just had talked to the person, it would have been fine. Well, this is now happening at scale, you know, with all of these, what do you call it, trolling or whatever. And I have sat at the bar and I've had – hardcore Trump supporter, and I'm just curious. I'm not a Trump supporter, but tell me more. And it actually draws the conversation out because you're there for an hour or longer.
There's no rush to get the answer. And I think that's a big difference. I've had one time where just a couple months ago, I had someone, I was sitting at the community table. We have a community table in the restaurant. And I didn't know him too well, but he asked me, did I know that 9-11 was a conspiracy and it didn't really happen? It didn't happen, yeah. And I was like, huh.
So actually, I was at 9-11. I mean, I watched it until I was four. I was there, physically there. Allegedly. There's no doubt in my mind. Okay. But I didn't want to interrupt what he had to say. So I let him talk for five minutes, six minutes, seven minutes. And again, you're there for a while, so you're not in a rush to jump in and argue. And then I shared that I was there.
And I think because I had been willing to listen to him, he was willing to listen to me. And I don't know if he changed his mind. He certainly didn't change my mind, but it was actually a pretty cool conversation to kind of get into each other's mind.
Yeah, exactly. I like the term play with them because what you're not trying to do is shut the conversation down. You're also not trying to... Talk down on me. Yeah, exactly. Like, let me just be nice while I totally disagree with this person. You can do that for a few minutes. You can't do that for two hours.
Absolutely. In fact... One of my favorite things to do is you do like a Jeffersonian-style dinner. Let's say five or six people. Sometimes people will break off into individual conversations. That's actually when things break down. So that's when you kind of go back to small talk. Like, oh, I'm stuck next to this guy. I'm just going to do a little small talk.
What you need to do to really create a great conversation is one conversation at the table. And that's where, you know, there'll be some simple questions that I'll say. I'll say, you know, what's your middle name? And you'll be amazed at the stories you get from that. But it's about creating vulnerability. So they're like, oh, no one's ever asked me that before. So then they become vulnerable.
And then something as simple as what's the most fun thing you've done recently and what is the most fun thing you're looking forward to? Mm-hmm. And I have gotten into, with those prompts, I've gotten into hours-long discussions on God. I've gotten into hours-long discussions on love. I've gotten into hours-long discussions on anger.
It's actually amazing when people are just asked a question like, what's the most fun thing you've done lately? Well, why would anger come up? Well, actually... they're in a vulnerable place, so it'll just kind of come out of them.
Yeah, and we're going to open in Austin. In Austin.
Are communists the likes of drugs? That's a good question to ask. I think I know some of those. Okay.
I love it. I think that I've talked to a lot of Austinites who've been here forever. And I'm like, man, you got to hold us accountable. We got to keep this place weird.
Yeah, it's actually, I think it's one of my most powerful life lessons is we have to eat. So it's not like you have a choice, you have to eat. And so what I choose to do is I choose to make it a gift to myself for each meal. And most of the time, the best gift is with friends, with family.
So we'll have to cook some scrambled eggs in the morning with my daughter or we'll have dinner with our family. To me, it's a gift we give ourselves three times a day, you know, at least. But for the most part, three times a day. Let's make it a good one. What makes it a good one to you? What aspect of it makes it a good one? Well, first, definitely eating with people. So that makes it a good one.
So eating in a restaurant, it doesn't have to be my restaurant, where you have the energy of people around you, energy of the town, people you don't know, creates a little bit of a vibe. You mentioned the watering hole analogy, the animals sipping at the water. Yeah. But there's an energy to that because they're also like looking around going, am I just about to be eaten?
So they're all in it together, but we need to have water. But there's also a little bit of tension as well in the background. And I think that's what restaurants do is a very, very subtle version of that. You're in a room with strangers. Yeah. And you're, yeah, you're a little cluster. Okay, fine. You guys are connected in it. Yeah.
But you're in a room of strangers and it's just something that adds that energy to the meal.
Like, are we too loud? Or just, you also just, people are random. So something random could happen.
Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. Totally right. I mean, you know, look at the cowboy hat. I mean, actually, I'll take my hat off when I want to have a quiet meal and I can leave my hat on when I'm... So you're aware of the lot. I'm aware of the effect it has. Yeah, absolutely.
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