Kimberly Adams

Give us a big overview of sort of what the conditions are like here.

I was really surprised in prepping for this episode that you guys are ranked so high when it comes to homelessness.

What is behind this housing shortage?

I also know that Vermont has a little bit of a reputation for being kind of crunchy when it comes to the environment.

There's some really interesting things that you've reported on that they're trying to do to encourage development, including something called catalog homes.

One of the other things you cover that's sort of ancillary to the housing crisis is the homelessness crisis here.

What is the situation there and what's being done about it?

All right.

Well, thank you for that update from Vermont.

Carly, we are going to take a quick break.

And when we come back, we are going to play a fun game with the wonderful Drew Jostad.

We'll be right back.

All right, we are back.

Carly and I are now going to play a Vermont-style round of This or That with the wonderful Drew Jolstad here to host.

Take it away, Drew.

Hmm.

I can't lie.

I think even though I fall down a lot, I think I still prefer the downhill skiing just because the cross-country skiing is so exhausting.

It is so hard.

It's like...