Kiri Pritchard-McLean

And what they're actually talking about is a young person.

and whether they're going to see their parents or not, which is how you and I would talk about it.

But they are so entrenched in this language.

I mean, stories, not spreadsheets, is absolutely... It's been written on a whiteboard somewhere.

Yes.

And then everyone's worked from there.

Comedians do it.

We speak in this language of open spots and, you know, I was middling here.

Type five.

Type five, all that stuff.

You don't even know that you are.

Yeah.

Not anymore.

Yes, I have been saying for absolutely years that Rina Piorweth, who is the leader of Plaid Cymru, I've been calling that he is trying to follow the Obama model.

You know, they've got this 100-day roadmap, but it's about hope.

It's about confidence.

It's about ambition.

You know, it might sound wishy-washy, but it sounds completely different when people are getting into specifics about stopping the boats and things like that.

But to pitch yourself, and I think he's doing a much more American delivery of politics.

And certainly in Wales, if the latest results are to be proving anything, it's worth it.