Konstantin Kisin

You're here for a third time now.

Last time, we had a conversation about MAID, which is assisted dying, basically.

We'll argue about it later.

Okay.

But that conversation...

got huge views because I think it's something that a lot of people are really thinking about.

And what we talked about it then in the context of Canada, but what I think we've actually seen since then is that this is moving to other parts of the world in America, in the UK, assisted dying has been a big conversation.

So just let's reset and tell the story from the beginning.

What is happening with assisted dying around the world now?

And there's a... But define eugenics?

So your claim is these programs are designed to weed out and kill people who are inconvenient to the government, to society, because they consume too many resources.

Right.

And what's the difference?

Well, the audience don't know we were having a conversation.

Start at the beginning.

We were having dinner, and I said to you, Kelsey, I love what you do, but when I think about situations that I can envisage quite easily... Yeah.

I think France and I agreed on this, actually.

I can see situations where I would want to be made at quote-unquote.

Okay, you make it sound less appealing than what I had in mind.

You get my point, right?