Krystal Ball

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41,674 appearances 222 recordings 6 series first heard May 2025 last heard 11 Sep

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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar · 9/14/26: Anthropic Calls To Slow Pace of AI, Nate Soares AI Regulation · 14 Sep 2026 podcast

Yeah, to me the most chilling part of the so-called hugging face incident, reading their, you know, chain of thought and how they were thinking about whether or not they're gonna join the swarm and participate, going through all these messages, and almost nowhere do humans factor into the calculus whatsoever. voice-verified

And it's not hard to relate to because look at how we behave in the world. voice-verified

You know, when I see an ant in my kitchen. voice-verified

It's not that I hate the ant, but I don't want the ant there, and I don't think twice about, you know, taking out the ant and putting poison down so that future ants don't colonize in my kitchen. voice-verified

So it's not I think it's that analogy to how we treat lesser intelligent beings on the planet is kind of intuitive for people to grasp. voice-verified

What I think may be harder for people, and is perhaps harder for me to to wrap my head. voice-verified

Around is we have our current interaction with the AI, the commercially available AI of today. voice-verified

And most people, myself included, use it as sort of like a glorified search engine. voice-verified

So then it's hard to imagine it developing to that point of superintelligence where it would truly be intellectually beyond humans on effectively every level. voice-verified

So can you lay out why we? voice-verified

We should anticipate that that is a real possibility going from where things are today to that end where we are no longer the most intelligent species on the planet. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

Here's the other thing I've been thinking about, Neat, ever since this uh, you know, open AI, multiple open AI swarms uh were revealed. voice-verified

How much research is being done into the swarm behavior? voice-verified

Because that was really wild to me was to see these emergent social organizational um properties that emerge. voice-verified

They had a leader, they had middle management, they were collaborating on this hacking operation, they were sacrificing themselves. voice-verified

To the swarm, and it was, you know, and and coming up with very elaborate ways just to be able to communicate with one another. voice-verified

And it seemed like once you had the swarm in place, it really amplified their power and their intelligence, which again, and you know, however people feel about anthropomorphizing, sometimes I think it can be useful. voice-verified

You know, if you think about human beings, it's the same thing. voice-verified

Like no one individual would have been able to get us to the point where we have the internet and can go to the movie. voice-verified

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