Laila Mickelwait
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Apr 2025
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We don't know who did it. Unfortunately, they were trying to kind of turn the fingers at me and the trafficking movement for motivating X, Y, and Z. But clearly, it was a professional job. It was done by somebody who knew exactly what they were doing. They raised that entire multi tens of millions of dollars of a mansion to the ground without even touching the neighbors. And it was in hours.
It was a huge fire. It was insane. That happened. Thankfully, they actually weren't in the house because they were building the house. They were at the last stage of construction. So as much as I hate anybody and want to see people face justice, I don't want to see them. Yeah. But that did happen. And we don't know even to this day. Was it somebody with an industry?
Was it an angry majority shareholder who was angry? They lived in this place called Mafia Row in Montreal.
And there's hints that it could have been their neighbors because their neighbors were so mad that they had reporters knocking on the doors of the neighbors' houses, the cameras in the neighborhood all of the time. And then they found out that he had done all of this. They had been hurting children.
And before that, they already hated him because he had cleared, like, hundreds of trees to build his monstrosity of a mansion without a permit and all of this. And they were angry at him anyway. So...
The neighbors. Yeah.
Oh, yes. That definitely happened. And I wrote a chapter called Before You Break. And it was because so much was piling on at once. And my uncle, who I consider my brother, was dying of cancer. And I was seeing him through the stages of death. At the same time, all of this was so intense. And I was so conflicted, too, because I have two young kids and I'm spending so much time on this.
And it was just hard. And there were times that I just, I don't want to do this anymore. But I felt like it is an honor and a privilege of a lifetime to have the opportunity to be able to lead something like this. And sorry, I'm getting emotional about it.
Yeah, I... I just couldn't. As much as I really wanted to, I really didn't want to because I wanted to see this through to the end and I wanted to see justice fully served and I still do.
My dad taught me a lesson. He was a man of integrity. And growing up, if he said something, he meant it. You knew that he was going to, at least as much as he possibly could, try to do what he said he was going to do. And I feel that way. It wasn't a light thing when we started this to say the petition is called Shut Down Pornhub and Hold Its Executives Accountable.
So since the book was written, more has come down. And we found out that they have gone from 56 million pieces of content to 5.2 million today.
Yes. And so they're 91 percent. And the rest of the content that's on there, most of that was only verified uploaders. And we know the problem with that. The individuals in the videos were not verified.
Yeah. So they need to take down the rest of that content. It's not important just to see justice served to get vengeance for victims. And that's important. That's important for their healing. Because they can say, yes, the wrong was recognized, right, and paid for what happened. And that's an important journey on their healing process.
However, it's also important to be a deterrent to future abusers. Because this is a risk-benefit calculation. And until we make the risk greater than the benefits that these companies get by maintaining the status quo, they will continue.
And so we have to make an example out of Pornhub to say, and we're seeing this already, like the other Porn 2 types are already trying to clean themselves up, to get rid of illegal content, to change their upload. They don't want to end up like Pornhub.
Exactly. And that's why when we're fighting trafficking, we have to increase risk and we have to eliminate profitability. But we also want to see policy put in place to make sure this doesn't happen again. So really the solution at scale for this is, is to mandatory third-party age and consent verification for every single person in every video.
Oh, I would never want anybody to give their ID to Pornhub. Not a million years.
They're facing a class action right now for data exploitation as well. Yes. User data exploitation. So they were without consent, gathering user data and help monetizing it and whatnot with advertisers and Google and all of that. So they're facing that. So I would never want that. But there are reliable, privacy respecting third party companies that can agent consent verify.
And that has to be done and it has to be done at scale. And so what I think is really key here is, yes, governments have to do this. But the credit card companies have to do this.
Because when Visa says, we do not do business with user-generated porn sites that don't verify agent consent, immediately, quickly, internationally, all of these porn companies that are highly motivated by profit will quickly fall in line.
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