Laila Mickelwait

The victims are suing, and they're not only suing Pornhub and its individual owners, they're suing the hedge funds, they're suing Visa, and trying to hold everybody accountable for all of this. Good. Oh, Visa?

No, it was for even the ads. For buying the ads, for selling the premium memberships, for the pay to download content, all of that was being monetized by the credit card companies. And PayPal, PayPal actually disengaged with them. When that London Sunday Times story came out, I told you about, PayPal was like, we're out.

No, it was for even the ads. For buying the ads, for selling the premium memberships, for the pay to download content, all of that was being monetized by the credit card companies. And PayPal, PayPal actually disengaged with them. When that London Sunday Times story came out, I told you about, PayPal was like, we're out.

No, it was for even the ads. For buying the ads, for selling the premium memberships, for the pay to download content, all of that was being monetized by the credit card companies. And PayPal, PayPal actually disengaged with them. When that London Sunday Times story came out, I told you about, PayPal was like, we're out.

Well, they said they were. They said they were so concerned and we were against this kind of content. But it was a lot of talk. It was really hard.

Well, they said they were. They said they were so concerned and we were against this kind of content. But it was a lot of talk. It was really hard.

Well, they said they were. They said they were so concerned and we were against this kind of content. But it was a lot of talk. It was really hard.

Yeah, they were charging a lot, you know, because these are high risk transactions. So they get to charge more per transaction on porn transactions.

Yeah, they were charging a lot, you know, because these are high risk transactions. So they get to charge more per transaction on porn transactions.

Yeah, they were charging a lot, you know, because these are high risk transactions. So they get to charge more per transaction on porn transactions.

I've heard certain cards or different financial transactions are even more than that. So significantly more. And what was interesting about all this, you know, at first we said, okay, looking at this, how do we move them? How do we go after this? And yes, of course it was like public shaming, but one of the things that was early on we understood was it was the credit card companies.

I've heard certain cards or different financial transactions are even more than that. So significantly more. And what was interesting about all this, you know, at first we said, okay, looking at this, how do we move them? How do we go after this? And yes, of course it was like public shaming, but one of the things that was early on we understood was it was the credit card companies.

I've heard certain cards or different financial transactions are even more than that. So significantly more. And what was interesting about all this, you know, at first we said, okay, looking at this, how do we move them? How do we go after this? And yes, of course it was like public shaming, but one of the things that was early on we understood was it was the credit card companies.

And we knew this because there was a site called Backpage.com a number of years ago. It was kind of like Craigslist where they were selling kids. And one of the things that was really effective was going after the credit card company. So we had that. But then the former owner of Pornhub came forward and

And we knew this because there was a site called Backpage.com a number of years ago. It was kind of like Craigslist where they were selling kids. And one of the things that was really effective was going after the credit card company. So we had that. But then the former owner of Pornhub came forward and

And we knew this because there was a site called Backpage.com a number of years ago. It was kind of like Craigslist where they were selling kids. And one of the things that was really effective was going after the credit card company. So we had that. But then the former owner of Pornhub came forward and

Fabian Tillman, the guy that had that $362 million loan to roll up the porn industry, and he's the one who put Pornhub on the map. And he had sold the company, I think, six or seven years before all this started. And he came forward to me in the summer of 2020 to say he wanted to help. And one of the things that he said was, go after the credit card companies.

Fabian Tillman, the guy that had that $362 million loan to roll up the porn industry, and he's the one who put Pornhub on the map. And he had sold the company, I think, six or seven years before all this started. And he came forward to me in the summer of 2020 to say he wanted to help. And one of the things that he said was, go after the credit card companies.

Fabian Tillman, the guy that had that $362 million loan to roll up the porn industry, and he's the one who put Pornhub on the map. And he had sold the company, I think, six or seven years before all this started. And he came forward to me in the summer of 2020 to say he wanted to help. And one of the things that he said was, go after the credit card companies.

The only thing they care about is the credit card companies. That was a confirmation.