Laila Mickelwait
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first heard Nov 2024
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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast · 503. One Woman’s War on P*rnhub | Laila Mickelwait · 2 Dec 2024
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That could include children or deepfakes where you're superimposing somebody's face onto a pornographic image. But these, I think, in large part, could still be solved by the same solution of mandatory third-party age and consent verification for every single individual and every single user-generated pornography
image or video on every website that per terms of service enables the distribution of user-generated porn. If we did that, we could make a huge dent in solving this problem across the internet, making the internet a safer place. But it not only has to come from the government, because these are international corporations. So if you have this in Canada, well, they're also in the United States.
They're all over the world. So yeah, we need that. But Here's the thing.
If we get the financial institutions to implement this policy, just like they have anti-money laundering policy, they need to have anti-online sexual exploitation policy, where Visa and MasterCard and PayPal and all of these financial corporations say, we do not do business with websites that distribute per terms of service, user-generated porn that don't verify the agent consent policy.
of every individual and every single video. And when they do that, it takes place instantly. It takes place globally. And these companies are highly motivated to comply because at the end of the day, every decision they make is driven by what will make us the most money. If they thought they were going to lose Visa and MasterCard, they're going to jump through hoops.
It was because Visa and MasterCard disengaged from Pornhub that they deleted 91%. They weren't going to do that for any other reason, but fearful and terrified that they lost the credit card companies and wanting to do anything.
I mean, this was the worst thing that they could have done based on their business model because it's the content that was driving traffic that was enabling them to sell almost five billion ad impressions on Pornhub every day. the worst thing they could do was delete content. They deleted 91 percent of the site because they were afraid of permanently losing the credit card companies.
So, when the credit card companies, the financial institutions, the payment processors implement that policy, we will see a transformation of this issue across the globe on all websites that distribute this content for profit and monetize it in any way.
Well, specifically, I mean, they can follow what's going on. What's your handle on Twitter? Lila McElwain.
L-A-I-L-A-M-I-C-K-E-L-W-A-I-T. And I want to thank you, Dr. Peterson, because you have been an important part of the story, whether you realize it or not. that when somebody on social media shares a post, it may feel like a minor thing to do, or maybe it feel like an insignificant thing to do. But that is so precious to me, and I've seen the impact of that.
When you have shared my posts, some of those posts have gone viral. In one season, we had like 100 million views It was in large part where I was sharing victim stories. I was doing this truth campaign and you were sharing them. Yes, it was getting more awareness, but also victims were coming forward who are now pursuing litigation.
Whistleblowers from the company came forward with such important information that's now enabling us to hold them accountable. So there's real tangible impact. So as minors, it may seem for people to just like and share something. Like that's meaningful. You can sign the petition. People can sign the petition. Join 2.3 million other people from every country in the world.
traffickinghubpetition.com. And this petition has been so powerful. It has generated media. It has generated pressure. And they can join. People are signing and sharing this petition every single day. They can follow other amazing organizations like the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. They can read the book, Takedown.
Takedown is the most comprehensive indictment of this company ever. in existence currently. I mean, it is packed full of evidence. When they read that, it's a story.
You go on a journey with me from that night in 2020, and it's told in first person, present tense, and you go with me on this journey of discovery where you meet victims, you meet the whistleblowers, you uncover the layers of complicity. And when you end up at the end of this book, my hope is that you will feel as passionately about this as I do and
And so you will be informed, you'll be activated, you'll be inspired. 100% of all proceeds from the sale of that book go to support the cause, go directly to the Justice Defense Fund. You can join Team Takedown. So if you go to takedownbook.com, you can join Team Takedown. And what that means is it's a group of individuals who are committing to
yes, we're going to take down Pornhub once and for all. We're going to hold this company accountable together, but we're going to work to take down and prevent illegal content across the internet. And so you can sign up to join Team Takedown there and Those are some actual steps.
Thank you.
A little over a month ago, I sat down with the new owner of Pornhub, Solomon Friedman and Ethical Capital Partners, and we had a conversation together. After the conversation, I asked a lot of questions, tough questions. Some of them were answered. Some of them were not.
It got to a lady named Layla Micklewaite, who is the one that started Trafficking Hub petition and got 2.33 million signatures to shut down Pornhub. She reached out, says Pat. A lot of things were said. A lot of things were missed. I want to come to your podcast and talk about it. Eventually, we were able to make it work. We had the conversation today. She comes with a folder this big.
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