Laila Mickelwait
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Apr 2025
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Exactly. They were reprimanded if they were watching less than 700 per eight hour shift videos, videos, just skipping through them. They were incentivized to be just, they put it this way. Our job was to allow as much content to go through as possible because the free user generated business model porn relies on massive amounts of content to
to be picked up in the Google search results, to drive massive amounts of traffic to the site to sell those 4.6 billion ad impressions. They were incentivized to just get as much through. Some of them were watching the more experienced ones, were watching even up to 2,000 videos per eight-hour shift just clicking through.
It was. It really was. And one of the moderators, and he gave me permission to share this, was especially hard for him because he was sexually abused as a child himself. And so it was especially traumatizing for him. And I think that was one of the reasons why, you know, when he heard the stories about what was happening on Pornhub, he wanted to come forward. and reveal what he knew.
Yeah. It was ridiculous because when I discovered all this, I started the hashtag trafficking hub. Just to reiterate what we just said about trafficking, the reason why I did that was because any underage victim and anyone forced fraud or coercion on the site is a victim of trafficking per our statutes because these are heavily monetized videos.
So they're using the trafficking statutes now to sue. They can be held criminally responsible for all of that. Some people might say, well, how is that trafficking? It's because it was monetized. Yes.
I agree with you a thousand percent. And one of the senior employees said Google is where Pornhub lives or dies. Of course.
Exactly. And Google has the power to suppress. So they are just not – innocent bystanders and all this because Nick Kristof, when he did his article, Children of Pornhub, yeah, he's the two-time Pulitzer Prize winning journalist from the New York Times that took this. He heard about this. Just to give people a recap of what happened. So the Trafficking Hub campaign went viral.
I started a petition. I wrote an op-ed about this, an essay. got a lot of traction. The petition went viral, 2.3 million signatures today from every country in the world. Lots of media articles were written about this. And then Nick Kristof did this huge investigation. One of the things that he pointed out was Google's power over all of this. And I look at this and I see there are enablers.
There is the bad actors and then there are enablers who allow them to do this, who help them who in fact benefit from their business and doing so knowingly. So that would include the credit card companies, the financial institutions, and Google. And so I think Google, they don't let you surface results for how do you kill yourself.
They took that ability away from people to search that and find a result that would teach them that. This is what he wrote in his article. I haven't actually tried it for myself.
But he said, likewise, they could suppress user-generated porn sites known to be infested in trafficking and not allow that traffic to go. And I have dozens of examples of Google search results that are confirmed. If that link was clicked on Google, it would go to a confirmed case of child abuse on Pornhub. And I've shown those to Google.
Is exactly right. And right now, Pornhub and MindGeek, they're losing their motions to dismiss based on Section 230 because they helped curate. They helped tag, title, surface. They created thumbnails.
Yeah, and then knowingly benefiting. So in the US, not only is it illegal to engage directly in trafficking, but knowingly benefiting from a trafficking venture where you knew or you should have known that this was happening, you can be held liable for that. So I think there should be a lawsuit against Google.
Let's work on that next. Yeah, you're working on that.
The uploaders? Yeah. So that was that 20%. So the 20% of content on Pornhub where it was the pay to download content, they would identify themselves. They have to. So Rocky Shea Franklin was one of those uploaders. Now, the problem was they were identifying the uploader. They weren't identifying the individuals in the videos.
So we have numerous cases of victims who are currently suing Pornhub who were part of those pay-to-download. They called it the Model Hub program where they were, quote, unquote, Pornhub models.
that had these verified accounts where they would show an ID, they would show where to get paid, but they wouldn't be verifying the individuals in the videos. Yeah, but 80% of the content on Pornhub or more was just the free content. It was anonymous.
Okay, they upload free stuff the same reason why they upload it to Facebook. Clout? It's clicks, it's views, shares, comments.
Because they're not going to prison because they could use a VPN to upload and use an anonymous email address.
So nobody could ever know.
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