Laila Mickelwait

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585 appearances 3 recordings 3 series first heard Nov 2024 last heard Apr 2025

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It's like we hold them all accountable.
That's the way the law works. That's the way it is in this case.
I get that all the time. So you're making this up. Well, that was their kind of ammunition to try to quiet this, to try to de-platform or discredit. Of course, the most obvious. This is a religious moral crusade, right wing to shut down all sex on the internet. And at the same time, you have porn performers who are some of my greatest allies in the fight.
And sometimes they had to be quiet about it because of the MindGeek monopoly. And they would get blacklisted if they would speak publicly because although they hated Pornhub because the free porn tube sites- To your point, what you just said was they destroyed the legal studio produced porn industry by allowing obviously they allowed the rape and the child abuse and all that.
But they were just allowing pirated copyrighted content all the time. So we had porn performers who were complaining, just saying, shut this down, because I'm spending two hours a day scouring my geek's porn tube sites trying to get my own stolen content off the site. So they hated it.
It is true. And there is this distinct difference between the porn valley. It almost feels historical now because everything has migrated to mostly the free user generated porn sites. But it still exists like the studio produced content where they have to abide by. This is really important. USC 2257. This is a law that we've had since 1988 in the United States that
that requires age and consent verification. It came about when there was an underage victim, Tracy Lords, who was underage and she was being used in these porn videos.
Yeah, like you would have heard her name. Any thinking person understands that if you don't verify for age and consent, In porn, you're going to have illegal content proliferating in the industry. And this has been something that they accept in the studio produced professional porn industry. And they abide by that for the most part. And if you don't abide by that, it's a criminal offense.
The DOJ has a right to inspect those records at any time. And if you don't have them, you can go to prison.
So they take it seriously. However, the problem is it just didn't translate into the internet age. And that is one of the things that we're fighting hard for is to create those standards, those standards where you have an intro and an outro in a lot of those videos where you say, hi, my name is da-da-da. I'm here. I consent to this. They do a post-shoot interview as well.
They can have those standards. Now, you're not going to get as much traffic. You're not going to get as much content uploaded, but that's the price to pay to have a legal operating industry.
Yes, the devil's in the details of all of this. Exactly the fact that, yeah, so they would have, this is f***ing rape, would be the comment. And they would censor rape. And this would happen, and it was confirmed by the moderators. It's exactly what they were doing. I saw this enough times and said, what is going on here? Yeah, they are censoring those words.
And when they got in trouble for the stuff like the unconscious, the drugged, so then they started to take out the word drugged from a title, but leave the video up. And so you could see the title, it would be like, you could tell that it would have said that, but just that one word would be taken out. The video is still there, or they would swap it out.
Things like that, instead of actually acknowledging the inherent, deeply flawed business model that they set up, they had to do stuff like this. And it even goes down to things that we discovered, like the fact that they intentionally hired one person out of 1800 employees, one person to work five days a week
to review videos flagged by users as terms of service violations, including rape and trafficking. And what they did was they had a policy, and their emails actually uncovered in Discovery where the CEO is discussing with his VPs these policies and talking about them, and he calls it good and reasonable.
They had a policy where a video had to be flagged 15 times in order for it to be put in queue for review. So a victim could have their video on Pornhub and then flag it 14 times. They could even flag it 15 times because it had to be over 15 times. And they had a backlog of 706,000 videos.
And we have evidence now of specific cases of prepubescent children who had videos on the site for years with 13 flags, 14 flags. And here you have the CEOs and the VPs discussing this policy, saying it was fine.
I mean, this is publicly available information that is in court documents. Of course. And we can see that.
I appreciate you saying that.
I kind of labored over it. I'm sure you did.
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