Lance Martin

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624 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Sep 2025 last heard Sep 2025

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And so when building applications, we should be thinking about this.
We should be adding structure necessary to get things to work today and by keeping a close eye on models improving rapidly.
and removing structure in order to unbottleneck ourselves.
I think that was my takeaway.
So I really liked the talk from Hyungwon Chung.
I think that's worth everyone listening to.
And I think a lot of lessons apply
That's an amazing example.
Actually, if you show your chart again, there's another interesting point in your chart where
in the earlier model regime, the structured approach is actually better.
And so an interesting take on this, Jared Kaplan, the founder of Anthropic, has a great talk at Startup School from a couple weeks ago, and he mentions this point about oftentimes building products that explicitly don't quite work yet can be a good approach because a model under them is pretty much, essentially, it'll kind of unlock the product, and we saw that with Cursor.
Part of the Cursor lore is that it did not work particularly well
Cloud 3.5 hits, and then boom, it kind of unlocks the product.
And so you kind of hit that knee of the curve when the model capability catches up to the product needs.
But in that earlier regime, the structured approach appears better.
So it's kind of this interesting, subtle point that for a while, the more structured approach appears better, and then the model finally hits the capability needed to unlock your product, and then suddenly your product just takes off.
There's kind of another corollary to this that you can get tricked into thinking your structured approach is indeed better because it'll be better for a while until the model catches up with less structured approaches.
No, no, this is super important, actually.
And I actually talked about this at the end of the post.
Yeah.
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