Lance Martin
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first heard Sep 2025
last heard Sep 2025
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There's an interesting subtlety when you talk about Asian frameworks.
A lot of people are anti-framework.
I completely understand and sympathetic to those points.
But I think when people talk about frameworks, there's two different things.
So there can be a low-level orchestration framework.
There's a great talk, for example, at Anthropic from Shopify.
They built this orchestration framework called Roast internally.
And it's basically Landgraf.
It's some kind of way to build kind of internal orchestration workflows with LLMs.
And Roast, Landgraf provides you low-level building blocks.
nodes, edges, state, which you can compose into agents, you can compose into workflows.
I don't hate that.
I like working with low-level building blocks.
They're pretty easy to tear down, rebuild.
In fact, I used, for example, Landgraf to build OpenDeep Research.
I had a workflow, I rip it out, I rebuild with agent.
The building blocks are low-level, just nodes, edges, state.
But the thing I'm sympathetic to is there's also, in addition to just kind of low-level orchestration frameworks, there's also agent abstractions from framework import agent.
That is actually where you can get into more trouble because you might not know what's behind that abstraction.
I think when a lot of people kind of are anti-framework, I think what they're really saying is they're largely anti-abstraction, which I'm actually very sympathetic to.
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