Lance Martin

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And I don't particularly like agent abstractions for this exact reason.
And I think Walden Yance made a good point.
Like, we're very early in the archive agents.
We're, like, in the HTML era.
And agent abstractions are problematic because you don't know what's necessarily under the hood of the abstraction.
You don't understand it.
And if I was building, for example, you know, Open Deep Research with an abstraction, I wouldn't necessarily know how to rip it apart and rebuild it when models got better.
So I'm actually wary of abstractions.
I'm very sympathetic to that part of the critique of frameworks.
But I don't hate abstractions.
low-level orchestration frameworks that just provide nodes, edges.
You can just recombine them in any way you want.
And then the question is, why use orchestration at all?
And actually, I use Landgraf because you get some nice, you get checkpointing, you get state management.
It's low-level stuff.
And that's the way I happen to use Landgraf.
And that's why I like Landgraf.
And that's actually why a lot of, I found like a lot of customers like Landgraf
It's not necessarily for the agent abstraction, which I agree can be much trickier.
Some people like agent abstractions.
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