Larry Levine
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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Maybe they have a pair of gloves in there or they'll have a coffee mug, a beanie to wear, but he's not going to need any of that because you know where he is and it's all knockoffs. And I got a client in Lompoc just called me yesterday that just got the bag and he told me it was the worst holiday bag that he's ever gotten. And this guy's been locked up for several years.
It's a bunch of crap that probably was purchased because it was out of date, because the prison system sells you out of date stuff. And they're trying to act like they're doing the inmates a favor. It's like, oh, here's your Christmas gift. You know, one year a place I was at, they gave everybody an individual little Cornish game hen.
They gave you a Ben and Jerry's ice cream and they gave you like a little carton of eggnog. He's not going to get that sitting in MDC. I mean, I'm sure they'll give him something special, something. But other than this mediocre holiday bag, there's not much more he's going to get. If he was in a regular housing unit, then he would be exposed to all that other food.
Yeah, but in the SHU, you have a different commissary list. In other words, you could go to BOP.gov, BOP.gov, click on MDCLA. You can actually pull a copy of the commissary list and you can see all the stuff the inmates can buy. The only thing is that's for inmates in general population. Inmates that are in the special housing unit, they don't get all that stuff.
Maybe there's a dozen items they can buy. Maybe they can buy some sweats and some candy bars, again, potato chips, some cookies. They try to limit what you can have in your cell.
I have some clients. I have actually one client there because the other clients got transferred to real prisons. They got sentenced. They don't hear anything. They're on a regular housing unit. They know what you and I know. Maybe some of the staff are talking about particular things, but you're isolated. Nobody knows what's really going on in the chute.
Sometimes there's inmates that get into trouble. They send them up to the SHU to do a couple weeks or a month up there. They may pick up some information and then come back down to their regular housing unit. But really, the inmates on a regular housing unit, they're not aware of what's happening in the SHU.
It's God was two years ago in the winter. The heat went out. The hot water went out. These buildings are old. All right. At least how I was there 26 years ago and it was 10 years old. OK, so these these buildings are like 45 years old. And there were two of them in New York. There was MCC New York and MDC Brooklyn.
And they closed the one, okay, they closed the one Epstein was at for obvious reasons. But the buildings are falling apart. The whole purpose, I mean, look at the name. MDC, Metropolitan Detention Center. These people that are there are going through the court process. They're being detained. MDC was not designed to hold people for several years. It's designed to move people through.
And they just don't have the staff and they don't have the funding to do the repairs on the facilities that are out there. That's one of the reasons they closed all these places. They're in such disarray and they need to be repaired and they just don't have the people and the financial resources to do it.
I was an MDCLA for two years. Yeah. Yeah. There was a guy named Kevin Mitnick. Kevin was there like almost four years fighting his case.
People are lonely during the holidays. They miss their families. They miss people, their friends. At some institutions, riots, well, I don't want to call them riots, disturbances jump off. People are depressed during the holidays. Absolutely. And nothing is moving. It's like dead time because the courts have closed down for the holidays. Prosecutors are on vacation. Judges are on vacation.
Your lawyer, they're spending time with their families. They don't want to talk to you anyway. So you're just sitting there isolated. And at a regular institution on a holiday, there are so many people that are coming in to get a visit that they have to limit the amount of time in the visiting room. So that two-hour visit you might have normally got may only be 30 minutes long.
And this creates a lot of tension among the inmates because where I've seen more fights break out during the holidays between inmates than any other time. And I'm talking based on my 10 years of experience at 11 different places. Holidays are the worst.
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