Lars Sivertsen

There seems to be almost more of an unpleasant edge to those meetings.

Let's get it right.

There's not a lot of doubt that there's a foul on Raya there.

And I think, I'm prepared to be wrong on this, but I think if you look at the course of the season, it is actually quite consistent.

You've seen the referees allow a lot of grappling and holding in the box, but they haven't allowed people to interfere with the goalkeeper's arms.

it has been allowed to shove the goalkeeper into the goal.

That's been fine.

But on the point of actually impacting his arms, that's something they've not allowed before.

So I think that's what they would point to.

Sorry, is that true?

Bayern was shoved into the goal, essentially, and Gabriel, his arm was up, but he wasn't holding his arm the way Reyes was.

If we want to get really nitpicky with it, which maybe we shouldn't.

My point was more that when the initial fury has died down over this debate, I hope there is a discussion about whether you're an Arsenal fan or not.

I don't think people necessarily want the sport to look like this.

I don't think we want, every time there's a corner, for there to be a massive melee discussion.

And for the poor old referee to try to sort out what happened there.

And I hope that it moves towards a more productive discussion of what that should actually look like instead, how you can police it more effectively.

I would like to see the referees come into next season and be given mandate to actually clamp down on this.

And this is where the much dreaded VAR can be a useful tool, because if you watch it in real time, it's just a heaving mass of limbs and men.

And the referee could just blow up and say, this was a total mess.