Laurence Holmes

For sure.

And he couldn't get over the hump.

And so I'm with you on the good to very good.

Maybe...

lower level great like i i listen i would need evidence to support that and i don't have that the difference is like so what he did in college was super impressive especially the first time running it back just getting those guys to all come back was the achievement there in a pre-nil era in a pre-nil you're you're right yeah no they had some booster pals probably yeah

Well, you know, that's when the SEC was doing SEC things and nobody else was.

Now everybody else is doing SEC things.

Out here in the open, coast to coast in the Big Ten.

I was about to say, all of that.

It's a good spot down the room.

And when he was talking in the press conference, he sounded like a guy who does read the social media commentary about his team and the tweets and everything else.

I'm okay with it because I expect that we'll hear from him again when the next head basketball executive is hired.

So that'll be a short period.

Well, it should be a shorter period of time.

I mean, how long do you think this search is going to take?

It depends.

He's going to definitely listen to John Paxson.

Yeah, and that's why I have a really hard time believing he'll walk away from it unless it's for personal reasons that are not basketball related, which I can completely understand after the year that he's gone through.

I'll say,

For Joel Lorenzi to come on and kind of explain to us, you know, the threading of the needle if Billy decides to stay just reminds me that ultimately the easiest, quickest, most expedient way out of this, just Billy walks away.