Laverne Cox

And I understood it being a big problem for me, but then even talking to my brother about it and him just sort of watching all of that happen, there was sort of a horror for him.

I've tried not to speak for him in this book, but I think he won't mind me saying this because he's told me watching all of this policing of my gender expression and this attention that I was getting that wasn't,

positive or affirming, like the message that was sent to him is that like, I can't be anything like that.

I have to like suppress the thing, anything that might evoke that kind of attention that Laverne is getting.

Yeah.

I mean, there's a closeness now.

It's healthier now than it's ever been with my brother.

But I think the dynamic, we were not a touchy-feely family.

We weren't a family that said, I love you.

So, like, my brother and I, so we didn't do that.

Like, we didn't, like...

That wasn't our relationship.

But what we did, we bonded most around music, art.

There were periods when I would be in dance class and he would come and watch and critique and he would give me his notes.

And, you know, now it's like we talk a lot of politics, but then we also talk a lot of art.

Technically, it was mine, I guess, when it was determined that I wasn't butch enough to play my character pre-transition.

And I think what's interesting about that now is there, I think, Jodi, I think the writers.

Jodi Foster, who was a guest director.

Yes.

Dodie directed my backstory episode.