Lee Jussim
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first heard Dec 2024
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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast · 507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim · 16 Dec 2024
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I have a longer version in a different place. But it goes through a short version of how to deal with these attacks. So the very first piece is that if you find yourself in the midst of such an attack... Go silent. Go silent. Do not engage. Do not engage with your attackers because nearly all of these cancellation-type attacks are massive, brutal, and short. Right, right, right.
Yeah, and most. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
As a kid, we used to go to the beach and body surf. And occasionally, like a wave that was way bigger than you could handle would. And there was nothing you could do except let it wash over you and knock you around. And you come out and it washes you on shore. As long as you don't do anything to make it worse. Yeah. Yeah. Like apologize, for example. You know, I would add this.
If you genuinely, in your heart of hearts, believe you have done something wrong, then maybe you should apologize. Yeah, yeah. But you should not apologize.
I agree with that. You need that. Yes, that's good. I'm completely on board with that.
Yes, definitely. That's a very good point.
Okay, so go silent.
Go silent. Record everything. Yeah, that's for sure. Everything. Everything. You don't know how you're going to use it. You may use it To defend yourself going forward, depending on how things unfold, you may decide after the wave of the attack passes that you want to counterattack. Yeah, right. Carefully and strategically. Carefully and strategically.
And by recording everything, you have the raw material to damn your attackers. So that's it, right? Go silent.
Yeah, record all of it. Seek allies. Yeah. Because you may feel alone. Yeah. Mobs are very good at coming after somebody who seems alone. But if you have networks, support networks, activate those networks. If you don't have them, and if you're in the intellectual type of professions, whether it's academia or mainstream media, could be in something else, you probably have a support network.
Let them know what's going on. Most... My experience has been, at least the kind of networks that I have, people will stand up for you. I mean, I had numbers of people writing essays that got posted in some pretty good places. Real Clear Politics, I think, was one, right? On this Pops fiasco. So, actually, of all places, the Chronicle of Higher Ed did a great, some great reporting on it.
And it really kind of damned the mob.
Temperature drops. Yes, that's right. That's absolutely right. So go silent, record everything, activate your support networks. And then, again, it depends on the situation. It's going to vary from person to person and situation to situation. It depends in part on what your skills and resources are. but then you are ready to either defend yourself and or counterattack.
And I don't, Jordan, I don't know how many essays I posted on unsafe science surrounding this event. One of them is titled, There Is No Racist Mule Trope. So the argument, the grounds for denouncing me as a racist for comparing black people to mules was that there was a historical trope of making an equivalence between black people and mules.
Roberts presented this, and he had one reference to support this. Right. Which I was not familiar with. Yeah. So I tracked it down. That's what you say. I know. Let's see what the article actually says. Yeah. This article was a really good article. And...
What it documented was that there was a historical linkage between Black people and mules because originally American Blacks were overwhelmingly in the American South. in the agrarian South.
And so the mule was a symbol of both the kind of work that was done in the South, this agricultural work, and it was a symbol of the flawed liberation of Black people from slavery, because one of the promises that they never delivered on was 40 acres and a mule. And even though that was never delivered on,
for a very long time until you had the mass migration into the North, the Black people living in the American South, you know, aspire to be successful farmers. And getting a mule was one way to have a successful farm. And so you would see images, paintings, even, you know, if you go to Southern museums, there's some very famous paintings of Black people in fields with a mule pulling a wagon or a,
Or, I don't know, you know... Plow? Yeah, like a plow. Yes, right. That's very, very common. And, in fact, the mule figures fairly largely in African-American folk stories from the American South. So he documents all this. Yeah. So much so that the mule... really became a symbol of people who were oppressed and part of the liberation of people who were oppressed.
So that when, after Martin Luther King's assassination, His casket was pulled in a wagon, pulled by mules.
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