Leslie John

This is called the three truths.

So a hypothetical scenario.

Imagine you get to live as long as you want.

And you get to do all the work that you love and all the research you love.

And you get to have the experiences you imagine with your family and your kids and all these different things.

But for whatever reason on your last day, you have to take all of your work with you.

And we don't have access to your books, your interviews, your content anymore.

But you get to leave behind one final message.

And I call it the three truths.

What would be those three things, those three messages, three truths you would leave behind from all the work and the research and the life lessons that you have?

Yeah, it's an ongoing dance.

That's cool.

Well, Leslie, I appreciate and acknowledge you for one, revealing during this, because I think academics can sometimes hold back.

Yeah, it's all research and science, and it's not going into their own personal life as well.

So I really acknowledge you for kind of revealing that about your mom and kind of having this underlying resentment for a decade plus.

But then-

this work making you face it and it's created a stronger relationship with your mom, it sounds like.

And so I acknowledge you for doing the healing work for yourself while you're trying to create research and academic- And raise two crazy boys.

There you go, Leslie.

Thanks for being here.