Leslie Kean
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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Those are all other questions. that veer into another realm where we don't have the explanations. We have a lot of anecdotal accounts of people who say they've been taken, but no pictures, et cetera. So I think that's the dilemma I face as a journalist, you guys face too,
that it doesn't mean we're not interested in these accounts of abduction or who's piloting these things if they're being piloted. Why are they here? What do they want with us? Why do they focus on military sites, atomic sites, as they seem to, as it's been documented? That's been documented, by the way. Why are they warning us away from atomic adventurism?
We don't know, but they do seem to focus on On atomic sites and they've shut off the technology at times. So that's documented. So, you know, you hit on a central dilemma with this whole subject, which is certain stuff we can we can document and and and report and other stuff is pure speculation. But we can't jump ahead, you know.
We can't pretend to know and jump ahead or beat ourselves up because we can't jump ahead. We just can't. We don't have that information yet. Maybe we'll get it. We got a lot so far that we didn't have before. But we don't have the most important part. Are we alone? Are we alone in the universe? Where do these things come from? Who's putting them together?
Are these grays so-called, are they human? I mean, are they beings or are they robotic? Are they mechanics or are they actual beings? All these things we don't know. We do seem to have, we, the U.S. government, and maybe the Russians and maybe the Chinese, do seem to have actual retrieved graft. That's pretty much been documented, at least according to people like David Grush and Jake Barber.
So and yes, maybe, you know, we've been able to reverse engineer some of those things, according to, you know, various people come forward whistleblowers. So, again, that takes us up to an area of the unknown. But the crucial thing that you put your finger on is what's all the other stuff? And we just don't know.
I did it sort of a little bit ironically because he did reject that title. It does connote somebody who's naive and sort of latches on to things without proper investigation. But I chose it provocatively because I knew people who respected him and liked him, including myself. would also maybe bristle a little bit at that title.
But I use it, as I explain at the end of the book, in the way that he believed in pursuing the truth wherever it took him. He believed in fighting for a better world, in marching against nuclear weapons, in trying to get peace in the Middle East. Talk about a difficult topic. You know, in case you haven't noticed, we haven't gotten to peace in the Middle East. He met with Yasser Arafat.
He gave lectures, you know, in Lebanon and all over. And, yeah, we didn't get too close to peace. But so he believed in all these things. So that's the sense I like to use the word. And even though, as you point out, he would not have he certainly didn't want to be called known as a believer.
They came down really hard on him. It was interesting. Of course, John, because he came from a wealthy upbringing and he was overconfident, according to Bud Hopkins, he was supremely confident in his ability to attract women, to win over skeptics. He was born privileged. He didn't have to struggle too much growing up. So he was pretty, as I said, very, very confident.
So he wasn't too concerned that Harvard would crack down on him. He actually gave lectures at Harvard. And I talk about a guy who showed up at one of his lectures and was flabbergasted that he was hearing about, you know, abductions and aliens. And he had a woman on, John Mack had a woman on stage reliving her abductions, screaming. And it was at Harvard. And he didn't care what they thought.
It's really one of the best observed cases of a landing. I mean, along with the... Betty and Barney Hill case, which really started off the whole abduction cycle. And by the way, you know, it seems to have started in the 60s somehow, for whatever reason, we don't know why, abductions seem to have surfaced then.
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