Leslie Kean

Well, as I said, I mean, there was not too much that we knew then that we've learned a lot since. But, you know, you raise an interesting point. How much do you put in? to a story, I would say that if you have it confirmed and you have it on the record with a name source, there's not much I would leave out. I'm not trying to spare the American people any hard evidence.

Well, as I said, I mean, there was not too much that we knew then that we've learned a lot since. But, you know, you raise an interesting point. How much do you put in? to a story, I would say that if you have it confirmed and you have it on the record with a name source, there's not much I would leave out. I'm not trying to spare the American people any hard evidence.

Well, as I said, I mean, there was not too much that we knew then that we've learned a lot since. But, you know, you raise an interesting point. How much do you put in? to a story, I would say that if you have it confirmed and you have it on the record with a name source, there's not much I would leave out. I'm not trying to spare the American people any hard evidence.

The problem is getting that hard evidence or at least getting people talking about it on the record. On the other hand, you're right. We were aware that this is a difficult subject. We didn't want to get too much ahead of ourselves. I mean, the basic news was important, that the Pentagon had a secret UFO unit. After years of denying an interest in the subject, the Pentagon was, in fact,

The problem is getting that hard evidence or at least getting people talking about it on the record. On the other hand, you're right. We were aware that this is a difficult subject. We didn't want to get too much ahead of ourselves. I mean, the basic news was important, that the Pentagon had a secret UFO unit. After years of denying an interest in the subject, the Pentagon was, in fact,

The problem is getting that hard evidence or at least getting people talking about it on the record. On the other hand, you're right. We were aware that this is a difficult subject. We didn't want to get too much ahead of ourselves. I mean, the basic news was important, that the Pentagon had a secret UFO unit. After years of denying an interest in the subject, the Pentagon was, in fact,

hunting for UFOs and getting evidence, collecting evidence, very important evidence. That in itself we thought was a big story. The question of retrievals of non-human remains, things like that, we hadn't really gotten to that point yet. I'm not sure if we'd had it, we would have put it in. I don't know. We didn't have it.

hunting for UFOs and getting evidence, collecting evidence, very important evidence. That in itself we thought was a big story. The question of retrievals of non-human remains, things like that, we hadn't really gotten to that point yet. I'm not sure if we'd had it, we would have put it in. I don't know. We didn't have it.

hunting for UFOs and getting evidence, collecting evidence, very important evidence. That in itself we thought was a big story. The question of retrievals of non-human remains, things like that, we hadn't really gotten to that point yet. I'm not sure if we'd had it, we would have put it in. I don't know. We didn't have it.

It is wild. We did not know that stuff then. I mean, the idea of calling in UFOs is a fairly new phenomenon. We haven't really checked that out. We've heard the stories. We were in contact with people. We're looking into that along with a lot of other stuff. But we certainly didn't know it then. I mean, it was enough to think that there were these objects coming in.

It is wild. We did not know that stuff then. I mean, the idea of calling in UFOs is a fairly new phenomenon. We haven't really checked that out. We've heard the stories. We were in contact with people. We're looking into that along with a lot of other stuff. But we certainly didn't know it then. I mean, it was enough to think that there were these objects coming in.

It is wild. We did not know that stuff then. I mean, the idea of calling in UFOs is a fairly new phenomenon. We haven't really checked that out. We've heard the stories. We were in contact with people. We're looking into that along with a lot of other stuff. But we certainly didn't know it then. I mean, it was enough to think that there were these objects coming in.

Even then, we didn't know that they were underwater. I mean, we just talked about them coming in from space. So the underwater part was another new element that we learned from Dave Fravor some months or maybe a year or two later.

Even then, we didn't know that they were underwater. I mean, we just talked about them coming in from space. So the underwater part was another new element that we learned from Dave Fravor some months or maybe a year or two later.

Even then, we didn't know that they were underwater. I mean, we just talked about them coming in from space. So the underwater part was another new element that we learned from Dave Fravor some months or maybe a year or two later.

So but we did not know about psionics, people calling them in or technology that, you know, frequencies that that brings in the UFO or people controlling the technology with their minds. I know the government has has been studying that. That's really interesting. So the answer is, you know, we didn't know very much about that in the beginning.

So but we did not know about psionics, people calling them in or technology that, you know, frequencies that that brings in the UFO or people controlling the technology with their minds. I know the government has has been studying that. That's really interesting. So the answer is, you know, we didn't know very much about that in the beginning.

So but we did not know about psionics, people calling them in or technology that, you know, frequencies that that brings in the UFO or people controlling the technology with their minds. I know the government has has been studying that. That's really interesting. So the answer is, you know, we didn't know very much about that in the beginning.

Yeah, you know, all my books really kind of fell into my lap. It's very strange. They say that, you know, writers don't pick subjects. Subjects pick writers. I mean, it's kind of a Zen thing. And it was true in my case. Every book I did was not the end of a process of me looking around for a subject, but something happened. that sort of forced me to do a book about it.

Yeah, you know, all my books really kind of fell into my lap. It's very strange. They say that, you know, writers don't pick subjects. Subjects pick writers. I mean, it's kind of a Zen thing. And it was true in my case. Every book I did was not the end of a process of me looking around for a subject, but something happened. that sort of forced me to do a book about it.