Leslie Kean

his life, it was another thing to be able to document every stage of it through his papers, which I was able to do. Even his therapy sessions with his therapist. As a psychiatrist, he had to be analyzed. And he went through analysis and he taped those analysis sessions. So I know really his innermost thoughts with his therapist. And he wrote a lot. He was not a secretive guy.

his life, it was another thing to be able to document every stage of it through his papers, which I was able to do. Even his therapy sessions with his therapist. As a psychiatrist, he had to be analyzed. And he went through analysis and he taped those analysis sessions. So I know really his innermost thoughts with his therapist. And he wrote a lot. He was not a secretive guy.

He put everything out there. So I had all this material. and I decided to do a book, and I didn't know how long it would take me. It ended up taking 17 years, which was much longer than I expected and much more arduous.

He put everything out there. So I had all this material. and I decided to do a book, and I didn't know how long it would take me. It ended up taking 17 years, which was much longer than I expected and much more arduous.

He put everything out there. So I had all this material. and I decided to do a book, and I didn't know how long it would take me. It ended up taking 17 years, which was much longer than I expected and much more arduous.

Every project, every book, every article, as you guys know, is more work than you imagine, but this was a tremendous amount more work than I expected because I had to go into the whole process UFO phenomenon and the whole history of UFOs and all the other people who were doing work like Stan Friedman and Bud Hopkins. And I mean, it was a whole universe that had to be explored.

Every project, every book, every article, as you guys know, is more work than you imagine, but this was a tremendous amount more work than I expected because I had to go into the whole process UFO phenomenon and the whole history of UFOs and all the other people who were doing work like Stan Friedman and Bud Hopkins. And I mean, it was a whole universe that had to be explored.

Every project, every book, every article, as you guys know, is more work than you imagine, but this was a tremendous amount more work than I expected because I had to go into the whole process UFO phenomenon and the whole history of UFOs and all the other people who were doing work like Stan Friedman and Bud Hopkins. And I mean, it was a whole universe that had to be explored.

Anyway, so that's how I was. I happened to be in the end stages, the last few years of my John Mack research, when this opportunity came up with Lesley. So that's why you could say I was well-positioned to pursue the story in The New York Times.

Anyway, so that's how I was. I happened to be in the end stages, the last few years of my John Mack research, when this opportunity came up with Lesley. So that's why you could say I was well-positioned to pursue the story in The New York Times.

Anyway, so that's how I was. I happened to be in the end stages, the last few years of my John Mack research, when this opportunity came up with Lesley. So that's why you could say I was well-positioned to pursue the story in The New York Times.

Well, that's the hardest thing to get because this phenomenon does not lend itself to documentation for whatever reason. At the crucial moment, the camera doesn't work, the image doesn't come out. You guys know from your research at Skinwalkers how the

Well, that's the hardest thing to get because this phenomenon does not lend itself to documentation for whatever reason. At the crucial moment, the camera doesn't work, the image doesn't come out. You guys know from your research at Skinwalkers how the

Well, that's the hardest thing to get because this phenomenon does not lend itself to documentation for whatever reason. At the crucial moment, the camera doesn't work, the image doesn't come out. You guys know from your research at Skinwalkers how the

that were pointed at, you know, whatever was out there failed at the crucial moment or the guts were ripped out of one and the other one was trained on it, didn't pick it up. I mean, that is extraordinary that technology always seems to fail. when we're at the brink of discovering something. So I think the hardest part of the story is documenting these interactions with these abduction accounts.

that were pointed at, you know, whatever was out there failed at the crucial moment or the guts were ripped out of one and the other one was trained on it, didn't pick it up. I mean, that is extraordinary that technology always seems to fail. when we're at the brink of discovering something. So I think the hardest part of the story is documenting these interactions with these abduction accounts.

that were pointed at, you know, whatever was out there failed at the crucial moment or the guts were ripped out of one and the other one was trained on it, didn't pick it up. I mean, that is extraordinary that technology always seems to fail. when we're at the brink of discovering something. So I think the hardest part of the story is documenting these interactions with these abduction accounts.

So what we can do, though, is use our technology or the government technology to at least document the objects. So as I said before, that is a big step forward, is that the government is now acknowledging that these things are real. You know, for a long time, they were dismissed as hallucinations. People were crazy. There were reflections off the desert floor.

So what we can do, though, is use our technology or the government technology to at least document the objects. So as I said before, that is a big step forward, is that the government is now acknowledging that these things are real. You know, for a long time, they were dismissed as hallucinations. People were crazy. There were reflections off the desert floor.

So what we can do, though, is use our technology or the government technology to at least document the objects. So as I said before, that is a big step forward, is that the government is now acknowledging that these things are real. You know, for a long time, they were dismissed as hallucinations. People were crazy. There were reflections off the desert floor.