Lewis Goodall

And Labour may be reduced.

In a country...

that they have won every election in for a century, may be reduced to having about 10% of the seats in the Senate, about 10 of 96.

He's actually been in politics for longer, pretty much, than any of the party leaders.

I think the Labour Party has got a decision to make on the basis of these results.

And it's not just these results.

We've seen it over the past 24 months now.

Everyone you actually speak to in the Labour Party believes that Keir Starmer is a disaster for the Labour Party and is proving himself a disaster for the Labour Party.

The question is, is whether the Labour Party for once has got enough guts, enough bottle to do something about it.

Why do I say that?

Look, lots of things can be true at once, right?

There are complexities with these election results and with politics at the moment.

We know that Labour is losing ground in every direction.

They're losing to reform.

They're losing to the Greens.

And very often it is the Green vote which is costing Labour individual seats.

Absolutely.

So it's not just all in one direction to the right.

Reform are often winning on small percentage of the vote for the reason you say, John, which is that we've got a fragmented party system being funneled into this absurd anachronism, really, of first past the post.

But none of that takes away from the fact that