Lewis Goodall

that if you look around the country in places as different geographically and in tenor as Hartlepool, Tamworth, Tameside, Redditch, Newcastle-under-Lyme, Wigan, Bolton, Salford, Southampton, what we're seeing in Wales, what we're seeing in Scotland, reform...

are taking their place, arguably, as the most national party of any of the parties which are contesting these elections.

A party that can genuinely say it is representing Great Britain from North, South, East and West.

And the truth is, is that what makes these election results different for reform by comparison, you're right, Emily, Farage has been around for a long time.

He's had lots of different political outfits, lots of different political incarnations.

None of them

ever before have made the sort of inroads into local government and different governing bases around the country as he is now doing.

UKIP never managed it.

He never managed serious inroads in Scotland, a bit in Wales, but not really.

If you go back further than that as well, the SDP never managing to achieve anything like this.

As a breakthrough force, we haven't seen anything like this before.

But as I say, UKIP never managed to achieve anything like it.

And you're right.

In a sense, what you can sort of say is it is true to say that reform are doing better in Brexit voting areas.

You can say sort of in a way that politics is kind of local government maybe is catching up to that realignment, perhaps.

But let's be clear.

Even in Jeremy Corbyn's nadir, even in his worst years, he wasn't losing seats like this.

At the height of the Brexit process, he wasn't going backwards like this.

I'm afraid if you talk to people who've been out on the doorstep and you talk to Labour people privately, sometimes publicly...

They'll all say the same thing, fairly or unfairly.