Lewis Goodall
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very big ideas, which we got at the moment, these sort of intellectual ideas from the right, which are being fought out every single day, you're basically taking a water pistol to a knife fight because you're not really engaging with them on the actual substance of the politics itself.
very big ideas, which we got at the moment, these sort of intellectual ideas from the right, which are being fought out every single day, you're basically taking a water pistol to a knife fight because you're not really engaging with them on the actual substance of the politics itself.
And for me, the parable of this, which I'm surprised Downing Street is less concerned about, the parable is Joe Biden. Joe Biden, who actually did deliver quite a lot was overwhelmed by the intellectual force of the attacks from the right because he was unable or unwilling to communicate exactly what he was doing.
And for me, the parable of this, which I'm surprised Downing Street is less concerned about, the parable is Joe Biden. Joe Biden, who actually did deliver quite a lot was overwhelmed by the intellectual force of the attacks from the right because he was unable or unwilling to communicate exactly what he was doing.
So you can make, and I think in the era of the smartphone that we're in and the era where, and I don't like saying this, but vibes are basically dominant in politics. I think you could deliver all of the things that Starmer says he wants to deliver in
So you can make, and I think in the era of the smartphone that we're in and the era where, and I don't like saying this, but vibes are basically dominant in politics. I think you could deliver all of the things that Starmer says he wants to deliver in
and still lose because people actually are more likely to recognize what they see digitally on their phones than the stuff in their actual lives around them. That's the kind of weird sort of meta reality, political reality we're living in. Let's assume for a moment that reform is actually going to be the main threat to labor or where the main oppositional energy is.
and still lose because people actually are more likely to recognize what they see digitally on their phones than the stuff in their actual lives around them. That's the kind of weird sort of meta reality, political reality we're living in. Let's assume for a moment that reform is actually going to be the main threat to labor or where the main oppositional energy is.
It's certainly true that they're defining the terms of trade, for sure. I'm not clear what labor thinks whether they're willing to articulate what the clear difference is in terms of how they see society as opposed to reform. Now, I think I know what they think privately, but what sort of society is it they want to defend? Is it the liberal society? Is it the multicultural society?
It's certainly true that they're defining the terms of trade, for sure. I'm not clear what labor thinks whether they're willing to articulate what the clear difference is in terms of how they see society as opposed to reform. Now, I think I know what they think privately, but what sort of society is it they want to defend? Is it the liberal society? Is it the multicultural society?
Is it a society which traditionally, traditionally for a Labour Party would have been based on equality and fairness? Now, that would be a very clear dividing line in terms of equality between Farage and so on. but it's not something they talk about. You know, what at the moment Labour I think is lacking is what you really need in politics, which is the normative part of politics.
Is it a society which traditionally, traditionally for a Labour Party would have been based on equality and fairness? Now, that would be a very clear dividing line in terms of equality between Farage and so on. but it's not something they talk about. You know, what at the moment Labour I think is lacking is what you really need in politics, which is the normative part of politics.
What ought to be, what ought to be, not just growth. So growth is a good example. Yeah, you want growth. What sort of growth do you want? Where, who do you want to favour most? Is it everybody? Is it the poorest? That is, these are the sort of central questions of Labourism, which like go down the ages. And right now, It seems to me that labor is defined by a kind of a politics of nice things.
What ought to be, what ought to be, not just growth. So growth is a good example. Yeah, you want growth. What sort of growth do you want? Where, who do you want to favour most? Is it everybody? Is it the poorest? That is, these are the sort of central questions of Labourism, which like go down the ages. And right now, It seems to me that labor is defined by a kind of a politics of nice things.
Basically, they just want everything to be somewhat better. Everyone wants that. Everyone wants that. But in a society and a politics which is increasingly about dividing lines and it's about having arguments about who your people are and who your people are not and which issues you care about and which you don't.
Basically, they just want everything to be somewhat better. Everyone wants that. Everyone wants that. But in a society and a politics which is increasingly about dividing lines and it's about having arguments about who your people are and who your people are not and which issues you care about and which you don't.
It just feels to me like Labour at the moment just fail to articulate that clear sense. And I think that is without, I think that is a prerequisite to political success.
It just feels to me like Labour at the moment just fail to articulate that clear sense. And I think that is without, I think that is a prerequisite to political success.
Look, there is not a great history of populist forces when they take office. I mean, usually, actually engaging with the realities of governing and the trade-offs that are inherent in governing doesn't usually go well. They're very good at critique and they're very good at throwing in grenades from the outside. They struggle. I mean, Trump was the best example of that. He has oppositional energy.
Look, there is not a great history of populist forces when they take office. I mean, usually, actually engaging with the realities of governing and the trade-offs that are inherent in governing doesn't usually go well. They're very good at critique and they're very good at throwing in grenades from the outside. They struggle. I mean, Trump was the best example of that. He has oppositional energy.